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Old 01-23-2013, 09:30 PM   #1
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Google searches sometimes turn up odd results. I was searching images for Roadtrek Nissan and saw what looked to be a burnt Sprinter Class B.
I clicked on the photo and it led to an auction site with a lot of salvage vehicles. Fire, flood, roll-overs, collisions etc.

The photo that got my attention was of a 2006 Roadtrek RS Adventurous.

















Propane is often linked to RV fires but there is no propane in the rear corner on the passenger side in that vehicle. I think the coach batteries are located there.

The smoke and heat damage inside is a reminder that we should all think of escape routes to be able to exit the van quickly. If the fire is up front you don't want to block the exit out of the rear for example.
I hope no one was hurt.
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Old 01-23-2013, 10:41 PM   #2
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Most RVs have a pop out window or some sort of escape hatch. I thought that was law.
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Old 01-23-2013, 10:50 PM   #3
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Google searches sometimes turn up odd results. I was searching images for Roadtrek Nissan and saw what looked to be a burnt Sprinter Class B.
I clicked on the photo and it led to an auction site with a lot of salvage vehicles. Fire, flood, roll-overs, collisions etc.

The photo that got my attention was of a 2006 Roadtrek RS Adventurous.








Propane is often linked to RV fires but there is no propane in the rear corner on the passenger side in that vehicle. I think the coach batteries are located there.

The smoke and heat damage inside is a reminder that we should all think of escape routes to be able to exit the van quickly. If the fire is up front you don't want to block the exit out of the rear for example.
I hope no one was hurt.
Out the front is pretty obvious in most vans, except the driver side door is harder to get to than the other side, especially if the curtains are drawn. The rear doors would probably be the area that you could the most easily mess up, as it can be very easy to cover or block access to the rear door latch, and you have to unlock it (probably) also. On a fixed couch Roadtrek, you have to reach through a hole cut in the wood support, after moving a cushion. We had to be very careful with our full time bed for the same reason. The power sofa we had originally there was very little room to reach the latch.

Probably good to practice in the dark, as I would hate to try to learn how in a dark, on fire, smoky Roadtrek!
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I used a 6" hole saw to cut an access hole through a rear panel so I can open the rear door on my home-built campervan from the bed area. Exiting that way is still somewhat impeded but I think we could scramble out.
We often carry bikes on back that would block that exit though. I have a hitch extension that I have used before that allows the rears doors to open with the bikes on the rack and should just leave it on whenever we take the bikes. It looks a bit odd with the bikes set far back but it makes sense to have the option of a rear exit.

Can batteries cause a fire like that?
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Most RVs have a pop out window or some sort of escape hatch. I thought that was law.
My Trail-Lite B+ and my Bigfoot Class C both had windows clearly labeled as emergency escape exits. I don't recall having that in my '04 Roadtrek.

Anyone here know if Class B's have a pop out window or escape hatch or are the front, side and rear doors all that is required?
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Most RVs have a pop out window or some sort of escape hatch. I thought that was law.
My Trail-Lite B+ and my Bigfoot Class C both had windows clearly labeled as emergency escape exits. I don't recall having that in my '04 Roadtrek.

Anyone here know if Class B's have a pop out window or escape hatch or are the front, side and rear doors all that is required?
The only Roadtrek I know of that has the pop out rear window is the 200 (really a C) which has no rear doors.
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That van looks like it's in better shape than mine.
Speaking of external rear door obstructions, I have that satellite mount on a standard spare tire hitch mount, and the passenger side door does clear the mount without contacting the hitch mount, if it happened to be left set up over night, as in booster's example. The driver's door will clear it also with minimal contact. There's just enough side to side sway in the hitch mount setup that both doors are fully operational. Some pics to demonstrate....








As for escape hatch windows, mine have the "EXIT" sticker on them, however I'm not sure if I'm supposed to read that as "I'm a window in an exit door, stupid" or as "I'm a window that can be forced open enough that you could crawl through me". I'm not about to try it, but it's possible GM vans come with these stickers. If I remember when I get Drive Clean tested, I'll ask.
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I have never seen another Roadtrek with the EXIT sticker on the rear windowns. Maybe a Canadian thing? The US version usually have screws in the window latches so you can't open them at all.

Do you have any concerns about your dish "walking" away while you are away from the van? I have heard of lots of folks who have lost the freestanding ones.
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I have never seen another Roadtrek with the EXIT sticker on the rear windowns. Maybe a Canadian thing? The US version usually have screws in the window latches so you can't open them at all.

Do you have any concerns about your dish "walking" away while you are away from the van? I have heard of lots of folks who have lost the freestanding ones.
My rear windows still flip open, but don't have any screens to keep bugs out, so they are rarely used as such. The EXIT labels might be Canadian.

Dish walking? Maybe, sorta, kinda, not really. It would be annoying.
The dish parts are fastened in place by the short bolts that came with the dish, but I substituted wing nuts, for ease of setup and tear down. I can now have it set up and aimed in about 15 to 20 minutes. The hitch pin is a stainless steel key lock style. If thieves were able to get the spare tire hitch mount off, they'd deserve to have it.
I had thought about using one nut/bolt in each point of connection, to make it more difficult to steal, but decided the whole rig cost around $200, and could be fairly easily replaced, as the Shaw Direct dishes are fairly easy to find, as are the gray support post, etc. The LNB would be harder to replace. I have marked each piece, so if I were ever ripped off, and spotted a suspiciously similar looking dish at a neighbouring campsite, I could identify my stuff.
Vanadalism is always possible, but I try not to think about it. I never set it up in a non-secure boondock stopover, we just switch to OTA antenna TV in those places. I only set it up in government places like NPS parks, or other commercial campgrounds.
I'm probably more concerned about it falling apart when we drive short distances (sometimes we'll drive to a more secluded area in a NPS park to fire up the generator early in the morning, and brew a pot of coffee) with it still set up. So far, it hasn't budged, and I mark the campsite with stones to try to park in approximately the same position to try to not have to re-aim it. That has also largely been successful. Coffee and TV news to start the day.

Also, (sort of related to satellite stuff) I just got some info from Shaw Direct, that stated clearly that they have no plans to stop the current "home away from home" service they offer, and their 2 original Anik F1R/F2 satellites will remain in place and aimed at all of North America for some time to come. Their recently added G1 satellite will only support any new channels, and it is aimed at "Canada Only". So I was assured that nothing will change for North American TV coverage areas from how it is now.
I mention this because some of you who are Bell ExpressVu customers may have noticed that you can no longer receive satellite signals beyond 100 miles south of the Canada/US border. You may want to look into Shaw Direct, if Canadian TV is something you like to have along in your travels. There is a US option available as well, but it doesn't have much if any Canadian programming.
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The rear door of that Sprinter that had the fire is the rear exit door. It is labeled as such and the handle is accessible and always unlocked. The other exits are up front, either the sliding door or the cab doors.
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