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Old 01-27-2009, 11:22 PM   #1
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Default USA delays cutover to digital only OTA transmissions

Saw today or yesterday the February drop dead date for digital OTA broadcasts in the United States has been delayed to June 12 2009. A 4 month reprieve if you haven't added an ATSC capable HDTV or a digital converter box to your entertainment systems.
LInk to a CBC article...
http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2009/01/27/tv-switch.html
I think I mentioned they were running out of Federal funding for the converters a while back in my Pleasure Way
installation posting, and that appears to be the reason for the delay.

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Old 01-28-2009, 03:41 AM   #2
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Thanks for the info Mike. I still have to figure out what to do. My TV has an analog tuner.

I stumbled upon this Consumer Reports review of converters: http://www.consumerreports.org

I don't see many converters available here. Future Shops lists only one.
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Old 01-28-2009, 12:53 PM   #3
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You've got options, although I agree there doesn't seem to be much of a push to provide either
converters or 12V Tvs with built in ATSC tuners in Canada yet.
There are a couple of threads on here with info from my trials and tribs trying to find an ATSC
converter in Canada, particularly in Ontario.
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=924
I wound up going to a place called Nutech Electronics
in St. Catharines, where I also got my LED bulbs for the interior lights. They actually monitor
their email address, which sold me on them.
I bought the Artec T3A ATSC tuner (around $100C) which has worked pretty well so far.
It's only shortcomings might be that it only scans for channel numbers up to 69.
I don't know if there are digital OTA channels above that number, but I suspect there are.
It also doesn't have an "analog passthrough" to switch from analog to digital and back depending on where you are.
I had to install 2 extra A/B switches and cables as a work around. And it works!!
Davydd and a couple of others on here have mentioned the Digital Stream converter (it's in the list of
converters you found), but I haven't seen any follow up comments from anyone regarding it's performance.
Same link as above.

A second option might be to swap in a Jensen Marine/RV TV with the tuner built in. I asked about retail locations
out here in Ontario where I could look at them, and pricing on 2 of their models the JE1508 and JE1908. According
to their website they have built in ATSC tuners and run off dual power 12V DC or 110V AC. Unfortunately, they
were unwilling to answer my questions as they cited an agreement with forum admin not to solicit on this forum.
See my thread in the Jensen/Voyager section.
viewtopic.php?f=34&t=1133

I'd be inclined to have a look in the States next time you're down there and see what's available.
I had a look at the link you posted. Not sure how useful it is, as it lists my box as not having an
aspect ratio button on the remote, which is true, but you can adjust it via the on-screen menu,
so that bit of info might be misleading. I wonder if they actually tested each box listed?

Anyway, good luck, you've got some extra time now,
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I am tempted to just buy a new TV but I don't want to spend the $400.00 for the cheapest model. (GST, PST & $25 recycling fee get added to the price here)

A converter would cost 1/4 of that.
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If the tube in your van is decent, HD or just really good picture quality, I'd probably go with
the digi-box myself. It's just a bit more work than swapping in a new TV. At least for me it was.
I guess if you get one that has the analog passthru and possibly a greater range of channels,
it would be easier to install. Plug and play.
Know anyone in the States that's eligible for a coupon, but isn't likely to use it? Just a thought.

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Old 01-29-2009, 11:39 AM   #6
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"Saw today or yesterday the February drop dead date for digital OTA broadcasts in the United States has been delayed to June 12 2009."

uh, not a new "drop dead" thing..

(except for occasionally watched vehicle tvs, I'm having a hard time believing there are still people who haven't prepared for this digital mandate)
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DTV delay... delayed? House votes down DTV postponement

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news

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Broadcasters and viewers have had February 17, 2009 circled on their calendars for some time. That's the day analog television broadcasts are supposed to become a thing of the past in the US. Earlier this week, the Senate approved a delay of the DTV transition to June, but what's going to happen now is anyone's guess after the House rejected the delay Wednesday.
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Default Re: USA delays cutover to digital only OTA transmissions

What can I say? Better get a move on!!!!
I think they got the $650M for more coupons approved, didn't they?
I wouldn't bet on the delay delay being final anyway. Obama wants the delay, or so I've read.

Thanks for the update though, guys!

On a totally unrelated note, Jensen got back to me and said they don't have any "retailers" in eastern Canada at all.
I've asked where they do have retailers and am waiting to hear back. Also asked for a MSRP list for all their products.

UPDATE: Looks like if you want to get a Jensen TV as a way of getting a dual powered ATSC capable solution for the DTV cutover, you'll have to buy an RV or Boat that already has one in it. Apparently they aren't into retail but concentrate on supplying RV and Marine manufacturers with units to install at the point of origin (i.e. RV factory?). I wasn't aware of this aspect of their business. Too bad, some of their stuff looks good. Here's the latest reply I got from them.....

"Our products are primarily developed for and sold to OEMs for the various industries we serve. Such as RV and Marine. The best way to get your hands on one of our televisions is to look at one in an RV. We really don't have a dealer network set up with retail outlets either in Canada or the US.

Darrell Robinson
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ASA Electronics
800.688.3135 ext.145
DRobinson@ASAElectronics.com"
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As of Fri. Jan 30 - as far as I can figure, the Senate has fast track approved a slightly modified version of the original delay to June 12 2009 bill. The House had adjourned before they could have a look at it , and will have to have a look at it again next week, so the delay of the delay, may be delayed, if they approve it this time around.
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wull, for those of us that are already "set-up", both at home and in the Van, it doesn't really matter
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