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Old 02-23-2013, 08:47 PM   #1
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i was wondering what other people have for the best alarm to keep a campervan from being stolen ,
someday i hope to live in one after its all fixed up and don't want it to ever be stolen .
i know their are some that also have a pager system (alarms) letting you know someone is trying to steal it and cut off fuel sytem and some won't start etc.
Once a person gets money into a van and if you don't have full coverage because of lack of money a person needs to do all they can do to keep it from being stolen .
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Old 02-23-2013, 08:56 PM   #2
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i was wondering what other people have for the best alarm to keep a campervan from being stolen ,
someday i hope to live in one after its all fixed up and don't want it to ever be stolen .
i know their are some that also have a pager system (alarms) letting you know someone is trying to steal it and cut off fuel sytem and some won't start etc.
Once a person gets money into a van and if you don't have full coverage because of lack of money a person needs to do all they can do to keep it from being stolen .
I will be interested in this one, too. We have looked at some units, Vipers are very nice! What I haven't had much success finding out is how much parasitic drain the have on the batteries, which could be a big issue, if you can't easily disconnect it when not in actual use. I have read folks complain about car batteries being drained in 3 days because an alarm installation.
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Old 02-24-2013, 11:16 PM   #3
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I am also interested in this subject. Went to Car Toys to talk to them about it, and it sounded like they could do what we wanted easily enough--but at the same time it sounded like they didn't know what they were doing.

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Old 02-25-2013, 01:31 PM   #4
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maybe marcopolo will chime in on this , or maybe people haven't thought this was important enough ? But consider it , you have a motorhome that is worth something usually many thousands of dollars at least and some crook comes along and steals it , even if for nothing else but to get from point a to b no matter how far point b is , meanwhile damaging the vehicle to break in and start it and also any damage to it when on the road or in a police chase if one occurs .
If i ever get a stealth van fixed up i plan on living in it which makes an alarm (a very good one ) security all that much more valuable .
especially in a big city , living in a van doesn't mean being in it 24 hours a day , it can still be stolen and their are other people who may be doing and or planning on doing what i am talking about .
i would like a good alarm system that also pages me and cuts off the fuel system and electrical system .
A very good alarm system is more important then some think especially people who can not afford full coverage and even then they only pay blue book prices no matter what you have done to it .
Again , i hope to hear about some good alarm systems that are available .
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3 years ago had the top end NuStart Remote Starter and Alarm (NUAS8000 model) installed by Best Buy Geek/Installation guys. All in, price was around $500 iirc.
They had some issues in my specific van, which required some consultation with the manufacturer, and an ensuing installation procedure update at same.
Here are the links to the relevant threads on here, describing the (lengthy/tedious) process I chose.....,

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Bottom line. The remote starter function is fabulous, in that I can fire up the engine from inside the house, or as we're approaching the vehicle to warm up the inside, or to fire up the dash A/C in hot weather. The remote's range is quite impressive, although nowhere near the advertised range. Those claims are ideal conditions. I believe the furthest I've been able to communicate with the "brain" via the remotes has been perhaps a few hundred yards, at most.
The alarm portion has gone off several times over the years unexpectedly for various reasons, none relating to actual break ins or vandalism. Usually because I've accidentally enabled the "shock" alarm mode, which functions well, but can be set off by almost any vibration, including loud noises, like Harleys. It has a "panic" button feature that we have used to try to scare potential thieves, or just people who get too close for my comfort, away. That feature is also invaluable, IMO.
It comes with a cute little flashing blue LED alarm enabled light, that may present just enough of a visible deterrent to potential thieves, that they will pass on us, and move on to a less intimidating victim.
Be advised, there is no engine disable function, this is strictly an audible alarm system. Do not leave your keys in the ignition, or your valuables in the van, and set the alarm, and expect your van or valuables to be there when you get back. Some thieves wear ear plugs. One of the fobs has a remote vibrate/audible alert function, so if you are within communications range, that fob will alert you that the alarm has been tripped. You can purchase extra fobs with this functionality but they are over $100 each. Can't recall the exact price, but they're expensive.
I don't think the vampire draw is enough to kill a battery any faster than any other known battery drain. Your radio clock probably draws more power. My van sits for weeks at a time (the alarm is rarely disabled) between starts without issues.
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Old 02-25-2013, 07:19 PM   #6
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I'd consider an alarm with a two-way remote. Some of the more advanced two-way systems can show if a door has been tampered with and other items. Plus, you can be assured your vehicle is locked when stepping away.
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I haven't seen any that do that, tell you specifically where the entry breach has occurred? Nice feature in a large house maybe, but in a small camper van, or any sized motor home for that matter, that seems like overkill, particularly if it drives up the price. There are probably smart phone apps that do that sort of thing now, too.
My fobs are 2 way, but don't give that degree of detail, just "something has happened" notifications if they are in range.
Another thing, they take a standard AAA alkaline battery which lasts quite a while under normal use. I have noted however, the system can start to trigger false alarms, when the battery gets weak. Nice (undocumented) method of reminding you to change it.
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Thanks, Mike for your comments. When I went to Car Toys, the salesman showed me a unit that did everything yours did and additionally would phone you if it was near a cell phone tower (this required an additional "subscription fee" of ~$300/3 years). It also had someting in it so that its GPS location could be determined with the access to a computer with the right code. So, if it was stolen, you could tell the police exactly where it was. It also didn't have a kill switch feature. I think that Sprinters have some pretty good keying system, but I'm not sure.

Two questions:

(1) Does a normal Sprinter have some theft precautions?

(2) How reliable are the Car Toys folks? Has anyone done business with them. I use to have a buddy who I traded lawnmowers, motorbikes, sterios, and what not with. He ended up working at one of those installation places and I wouldn't have let him work on anything of mine. (The place he worked WASN'T Car Toys, though.)

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Old 02-25-2013, 10:17 PM   #9
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Hmmm.........after looking at Yelp, I'll probably pass on Car Toys. Our local Car Toys has a 2 star (our of 5 star) rating. Not good.

We'll have to look for someplace else.

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Thanks, Mike for your comments. When I went to Car Toys, the salesman showed me a unit that did everything yours did and additionally would phone you if it was near a cell phone tower (this required an additional "subscription fee" of ~$300/3 years). It also had someting in it so that its GPS location could be determined with the access to a computer with the right code. So, if it was stolen, you could tell the police exactly where it was. It also didn't have a kill switch feature. I think that Sprinters have some pretty good keying system, but I'm not sure.

Two questions:

(1) Does a normal Sprinter have some theft precautions?

(2) How reliable are the Car Toys folks? Has anyone done business with them. I use to have a buddy who I traded lawnmowers, motorbikes, sterios, and what not with. He ended up working at one of those installation places and I wouldn't have let him work on anything of mine. (The place he worked WASN'T Car Toys, though.)

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Sorry, never heard of them, so no idea, but I see you've already answered that one yourself.
All vehicles have "some" anti-theft stuff built in at the factory. How much is described in detail (or not) in the Owner's Manual. If it requires a special key to start the engine, for example, it will tell you. Most of the newer vehicles have something like that that make it harder to move the vehicle. That probably results in most car theft being "smash and grab" theft, so hide your stuff when you leave your vehicle, just like they tell you, don't leave any "bait" out in plain view, and thieves may move on to the next vehicle/victim.
As long as it's not mine.
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