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Old 04-16-2018, 03:01 PM   #791
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"With the right independent extended service contract/Insurance.."

And where can you purchase that?

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I have no idea. As I said, I chose to "self insure".. so far, so good. I looked at a couple service contracts and they all had too many strings and conditions attached for my liking. I see Warranties basically as insurance companies betting that either your rig won't break down, or that they can get out of paying for it when it does, and you are paying them by placing your bet that it will.
I was just trying to make the point that there are several ways to skin a cat, and one probably shouldn't base a purchase on the warranty. I'd recommend finding a rig of which you were satisfied with the level of quality, and go for it. Some people like it less risky, and want to be "warranted" that their troubles will be paid for. From reading of others experiences, it sometimes seems fighting over warranty items is more work than fixing or paying for it yourself. I have read too many times about owners of a certain brand which have a long warranty. Some of those peoples rigs end up at dealerships waiting for repairs for MONTHS - In at least a couple cases, the owners rig spent more time in the shop than it did on the road. I hate to see anyone have to go through that kind of crap..
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Old 04-16-2018, 03:06 PM   #792
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Hi Wayne, just curious where in Mass you are? I'm a Sportsmobile owner (old Dodge Sportsmobile) in Pelham, NH (near Lowell, ma). I would like to get a new rug and I'm looking at Travatos. Thanks, Lee
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Old 04-16-2018, 10:16 PM   #793
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Default Another Dual Pane Window Difference

One thing about the dual pane windows in the Travato that I don't believe anyone has mentioned is that the small windows on both sides (near the "headboards") only open if you go with the dual pane window option. I believe the trade-off is that the middle larger window on the passenger side does NOT open so it can not be sheared off accidentally by the sliding door.

I believe, with the STANDARD windows, all the side windows except the two smaller rear ones do slide open.
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Old 04-16-2018, 10:21 PM   #794
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Default 2019 Travato 59K vs. Roadtrek Agile Testdrive

My wife and I spent an afternoon driving a new 2019 Travato 59K and a new 2018 Roadtrek Agile.
Bottom line. The Travato was much more relaxing and enjoyable to be in. Especially for those in the rear of the coach, it was easy, comfortable and fun to hang out and talk while moving along. The Agile definitely drove better, stronger engine, much more comfortable driving position, but not physically or psychologically relaxing to ride in the rear of the coach as itís moving. While some of the materials seem more luxurious, the fit and finish of the Agile was lacking.
Some details. We took Travato out first, and as luck would have it, a very nice couple who were also interested in the Travato joined us for the adventure. I drove first. I donít like the Promaster Driving position. In isolation the seat seemed a bit uncomfortable no matter how much I fiddled with all the adjustments. I think the part of it is that the bottom cushion is simply not very deep and I am 6í1Ē so it just feels too small. Plus, the legroom is not great and you sit more like a commercial city bus driver than a driver in a car. Itís tolerable but far from ideal. And compared to the Agile, the Promaster is significant step down. Power seemed adequate, not great but for a 9,000lb van it moves OK. No trouble maintaining 70 mph on the flat Interstate (near sea level). Turning radius was shockingly good, however the steering feel is poor, very numb and hard to tell what the front tires are doing. Visibility out the front was great but the thick A pillar does obstruct the quarter views some. Ride was good. Seemed less tippy and more planted than the Roadtrek. Neither my wife or I are used to the long braking distances on both vans. Next my wife took over driving. She too felt it drove OK, but was felt it was underpowered.
What impressed me was after she took over driving was just how much room there was for the three or even four of us in the rear. Hanging out, having a good conversation, looking out the windows at the beautiful scenery. Easy to stretch out, move around and be comfortable. We were only missing some wine or brews. Conversation between those in the back and those up front was natural and not awkward. And, nothing was rattling or flying around as we drove along. I am tall so the height of the beds/lounges off the floor is OK for me but I could see that for shorter folks not having your feet touch the ground would not be comfortable long-term. My wife would say I was remiss if I did not add that while the outside of the vans look similar from the rear and the sides, the front of the Promaster is indescribably ugly. I agree.
Next, we took the Agile out with our awesome salesperson (the couple that went out with us in the Travato had to get going). As I alluded to, the MB chassis simply drives better. Engine pulls stronger. Seating position and comfort of seat way above the Promaster. Visibility better too. Itís more upscale and a nicer cabin in pretty much every regard. The safety features also are also very desirable. Things like blind spot warning should be included on the Promaster, heck every van. Stuff rattled all over the Agile. A loudest rattle we think emanated from under the passenger seat but the whole coach rattled.
It just doesnít feel like it is thoughtfully designed for actual use. The cushions on the two small side areas at the rear donít stay put at all even when not in use. Sitting on the one on the driverís side is even worse. It just wants to tip you into the isle. The rear table is stored under the cushion and itís simply a poor set up. Same thing happens on the passengerís side when you sit on the sofa and put your feet up Ė the bed partition is under the cushion, unattached Ė loose and moving all over the place. Only a tiny piece of super cheap non-slip pad between the cushion and whatís underneath it. It all feels completely ad hoc and unfinished.
Itís not a big deal but there were little rubber bumpers on the floor which had already fallen off from somewhere in the brand-new coach. Overall, the quality inside felt a tad higher than the Travatoís but the quality was hit or miss. The galley counter top is nice material and the two-burner cooktop is larger and appears to be of higher quality than the cheapo in the Travato. Only the two rear windows open and only a sliver Ė not enough circulation for us. I have covered the bath in other posts Ė toilet seems barely usable but taking a shower in the Agile bathroom would be miserable due to its tiny size. My wife commented itís a way smaller bath (than the Travato) AND does not include a sink.
But hereís the thing. I just was not nearly as comfortable to be in the rear of the Agile. I was sitting on the passenger side and every time I wanted to talk to my wife as she drove, I had to lean my entire upper body over toward the isle to see her due to the space in front of me being completely blocked by the large mass of the wardrobe closet and the bathroom. Not natural or easy. My wife said the Agile feels like a coffin inside. Not fun, and isnít that a big part of it?
And hereís the kicker. Price. Thereís a $55,000 difference in the asking prices before adding nearly another $10K for 4X4 on the Agile. I know the Agile, besides being built on the nice MB chassis, has a much better and preferred lithium battery system included but many tens of thousands of dollars better? I donít think so.
Hereís the bottom line I told my wife. Iíd much rather drive the Agile but would way more prefer to travel and live out of the Travato. If the Agileís price came down to the Travatoís I think Iíd still pick the Travato. I think we are zeroing in on our purchase.
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Old 04-16-2018, 10:47 PM   #795
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You put too much emphasis in riding in the back. That occurs when maybe you go from a campground to a restaurant with another couple doubling up.
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Old 04-16-2018, 11:15 PM   #796
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You put too much emphasis in riding in the back. That occurs when maybe you go from a campground to a restaurant with another couple doubling up.
You may be correct on this one but I also know that in whatever we get, while I drive my wife will spend a lot of time in the rear of the coach stretched out, comfortable, and hopefully belted.
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You may be correct on this one but I also know that in whatever we get, while I drive my wife will spend a lot of time in the rear of the coach stretched out, comfortable, and hopefully belted.
If you like the MB chassis but the Winnebago build, why not look at the ERA?
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If you like the MB chassis but the Winnebago build, why not look at the ERA?
I agree - they aren't as expensive as the Agile (about $100K) and some models of the ERA have a bench right behind the driver, others have four seats, etc. so you could find a configuration you like.
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If you really like the short MB van, the Pleasure-Way Ascent would be another one to check out.
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If you really like the short MB van, the Pleasure-Way Ascent would be another one to check out.

I agree. I'd sure look at and consider an Ascent before the RT model. You definitely get a better build....
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