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Old 06-16-2018, 03:41 AM   #1
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Default Aktiv vs Travato 59g Shower Size

Are either the Aktiv or the Travato 59g suitable for a quick, daily shower?

I'm very interested in the Hymer Aktiv and the Winnebago Travato 59GL (when it starts becoming available). I got a chance to check out an Aktiv in person last week. As I feared, the shower is tiny.

There are no 59G's to look at within four hours travel of me right now (Utah).

I don't function without a shower every morning, and I don't want to have to use the campground or a gym shower. A navy shower is okay.

Are there any Aktiv owners or 59g owners here that take a daily shower in the van? How miserable is it? I have very broad shoulders, and it seemed like soaping up in the Aktiv would be hazardous to my elbows AND the shower walls and door.

The 59g shower looks substantially bigger. Thoughts?
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Are there any Aktiv owners or 59g owners here that take a daily shower in the van? How miserable is it? I have very broad shoulders, and it seemed like soaping up in the Aktiv would be hazardous to my elbows AND the shower walls and door.

The 59g shower looks substantially bigger. Thoughts?
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There are a couple of Travato owners here, but perhaps they are on the road - it is the season. If you can't get your question answered here, I imagine there is a Travato FaceBook group you could join...
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There is no comparison.

The Aktiv shower cubicle is around 24" square with a toilet taking a significant chunk of it. The Travato's shower is about 28" wide x 48" long. The standing space for shower is at least 24" square at your feet or a bit bigger.

The Aktiv you will need to fiddle with a shower curtain to protect the woodwork. In the Travato, you will not as all surfaces are waterproof fiberglass.
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There is no comparison.

The Aktiv shower cubicle is around 24" square with a toilet taking a significant chunk of it. The Travato's shower is about 28" wide x 48" long. The standing space for shower is at least 24" square at your feet or a bit bigger.

The Aktiv you will need to fiddle with a shower curtain to protect the woodwork. In the Travato, you will not as all surfaces are waterproof fiberglass.
That is super helpful. When I stepped into the Aktiv's shower and got the door closed, I noticed the curtain, but it would have been touching me on all sides. That would be a mess if I was wet and it was sticking to me.

That probably seals the deal for me. I hope someone gets a 59G in stock around here soon.

Advantages to Aktiv:
The 1.0 is slightly shorter
Has a bigger bed
Has more windows in the "bedroom"
Skylight
Cassette is more versatile

Advantages to 59G(L):
Volta system seems way better (on paper)
Usable bathroom
Larger black tank
Easier to set up and put away bed
Roomier kitchen
Larger, better-positioned fridge
Better 2nd bed

I could probably live with either--if it wasn't for the shower.
The fridge is a nice bonus.
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The 59G shower has plenty of shoulder room. The shower works well and some folks have added upgraded shower heads, faucets and wood mats. The wood floor mat is now standard and we recently heard that the upgraded shower head is now too. The shower does come with a curtain, I dont use it, works fine without.
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The Aktiv 1.0 is on the ProMaster 2500 chassis.
The Aktiv 2.0 is on the ProMaster 3500 chassis.
The Travato is on the ProMaster 3500 chassis.


[Edit: Aktiv 1.0 & 2.0]
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The Aktiv is on the ProMaster 2500 chassis.
The Travato is on the ProMaster 3500 chassis.
What does that get you? Just the extra length? If so, does that mean that Hymer Aktiv 2.0 is on the 3500 chassis?

It looks like the gross weight rating is still the same for the two. It would be surprising to not get more load capacity from the 3500.
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What does that get you? Just the extra length? If so, does that mean that Hymer Aktiv 2.0 is on the 3500 chassis?

It looks like the gross weight rating is still the same for the two. It would be surprising to not get more load capacity from the 3500.
The only difference is the rear spring assembly. Yes, you do get higher payload ratings.
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ProMaster 3500 differences

1 extra rear spring leaf
1 rear torsion bar
Lower gear ratio

Final Drive and Overall Top Gear Ratios
1500 = 3.16 (half ton)
2500 = 3.43 (three quarter ton)
3500 = 3.86 (one ton)
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