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Old 03-06-2017, 05:39 PM   #1
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Default New? Hymer Travato 59k knockoff "Sunlight"

The Travato 59k floor plan was attractive to me. The Hymer "Sunlight" appears to have a similar twin bed, rear bath plan. I haven't come across this model before.

2017 ERWIN HYMER GROUP SUNLIGHT V1

You can find pictures of two available vans at RV trader . com today. I can't find any info about the Sunlight on the Hymer website though.
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Sunlight is Erwin Hymer Group's new entry level Class B brand of vans, sold through Camping World's 124 dealer network with MSRP prices starting at $69,900.

That Sunlight Van One (V1) model is both shorter (20ft) and rather basic compared to Winnebago's Travato 59k. But then again it's aimed at a different entry level market, with an MSRP $15-20k below the Travato.

Jim Hammill claims they're producing 10 Sunlight units a day to meet demand. That's a lot of units! But then again perhaps the simplified designs allow fast production throughput.
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Wow.... The Sunlight Van One makes the Travato 59k look like and ARV model. I never though Erwin Hymer would go in this direction. Cheap materials and components everywhere you look. I can see why they are selling to 'under the raydar'.

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Interesting they didn't "debut" these at any of the shows. Guess not very proud of these. But they did show Simplicity at the shows - it's in a similar vain - make it as cheap as possible. Looks like they have been successful.

In 2015, Hammil explained to me how they had a K "clone" sitting in the wings. It would be far nicer than what that POS company Winnebago could ever dream of putting out. Seeing the results of his 2+ years of "hard work", I must say he's made an impression. Not a good one mind you...
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This is a "private label" for Camping World, with a particular target audience, as a base level intro to RVing.
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Jim Hammill claims they're producing 10 Sunlight units a day to meet demand. That's a lot of units! But then again perhaps the simplified designs allow fast production throughput.
I find this statement interesting, as who is the demand? THe folks on this board are pretty knowledgeable about the CLass B market and this is something new even here....good luck to them.
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When I first looked at the 59K,
I thought to myself what a stupid design.

Then I noticed WGO is selling them like hotcakes.
The G to K ratio is an even 50-50.
I said to myself they must know something I don't.

Then I took a closer look at the K.
The light bulb clicked.
As we get older, it gets more difficult to get in and out of the bed.
We want a bed that is open right to the aisle.
Most of the old folks prefer separate beds
because old folks need to go to the washroom at night,
and we do not like to be disturbed when the other wakes up.
Furthermore, North Americans want bigger baths than the Europeans.
And the K has a big bath.

Good going !
I think the Hymer clone would sell well too.
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Great observations BBQ. All that you said is quite true. I also think "price point" will help inspire a new participants/owners into the RV World. To that subject, especially younger entrants, and however the sleeping is arranged, they will adapt and modify to work for them.
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I'm guessing the low price of a Promaster is allowing a lower price of these units. I'm guessing the builder is paying <$25K for the van. Unless ford can compete with the low selling prices of the Promaster, we will see the market flooded with Promaster low end B's and rental B's.
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Thanks for your insight on the story of this new offering.
If my 59k ever comes in, I thought I would have to learn to apologize for having a cheap van like Wincrasher sometimes does on the forum. No more: the Sunlight appears to be the current winner of the race to bottom!
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