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Old 10-14-2017, 01:11 PM   #101
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I wouldn't be surprised if it were Reflectix, the egg trailer folks have been using it for years in their trailers (Scamp). Of course they make all kinds of crazy claims about how well it insulates by claiming R15 or such. The true R value is very low, the claim to fame of Reflectix is for radiant heat across open area, which isn't how walls work, unfortunately. It does work well on hot window areas, though.
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Old 10-14-2017, 10:31 PM   #102
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No I didn't ask. But the solar would have to come off. So I'm not sure how complicated that would be. On the inside there's plenty of ceiling space. In the show atmosphere I felt like the Mike Thompson people didn't want to talk about anything other than writing a sale. I wish I had asked Lars when I had his attention.
Definitely not to replace the solar, which to me is a must have... but why not just make the hole in the bathroom roof large enough to fit either the maxfan or Fantastic Fan? Would seem the logical spot on such a small van...
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That's great research @Smith101
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More Axion details from Pomona

I went back to the show today and again found Lars (last name Dudek, a Hymer rep for the northwest region) with more questions.

First, I had assumed the lithium batteries were always paired with the GU. That is wrong. These features are available separately or together. So you can get lithium without the GU and vice versa. All Axions are prewired for both options.

Second, and very important, is Hymerís service strategy for non-chassis defects and repairs. For the most part, dealers do not do service. When a repair, warranty or not, is needed the customer calls Hymer who has engaged and trained independent RV repair only or customizing shops across the country. Hymer then directs the customer to the nearest facility, no matter where the customer is at the moment. Donít call a dealer. Thatís a relief!

For example, the customer I mentioned previously who bought the $58k deal got an AGM/no GU vehicle and will have the lithium and GU options installed by Hymerís local service provider. So happens the owner of that local shop, Tony Peneda, was at the show. He has 17 years of factory trained RV product service, custom modification, and installation. So I asked him about replacing the puny bathroom fan with a Maxx Fan or a Fantastic Fan. He said that would be easy as long as there is room. He did not offer a price. I got the impression he was quite knowledgeable.

So here are some pics of the roof (I hope). Even though this Axion has no TV, the antenna is present.
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Also, a photo of the price promo: obviously trying for a windfall.

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So, by this time you've probably guessed who that $58 customer is.
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Correction: Just re-visited RV show and there is only 1 (not 3) extra battery-sized boxes underneath the Axion (& Banff). In the shadows I confused the grey holding tank with more boxes. IE: Under the Axion are 2 large lithium battery boxes and 1 smaller battery-shaped box that I don't know what its function is.
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Old 10-15-2017, 11:41 AM   #106
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A ton of useful info in this thread, you guys are awesome!
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Old 10-15-2017, 12:29 PM   #107
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I can't imagine why they would offer the lithium batteries without the engine generator, as you need to be able to charge them and have no other high output sources. Their high acceptance rates will be very hard on a standard alternator, and may mess up the PCM using a lot of alternator power

Of course it is possible you get no engine charging when you have lithium and no engine generator.
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More Axion details from Pomona

I went back to the show today and again found Lars (last name Dudek, a Hymer rep for the northwest region) with more questions.

First, I had assumed the lithium batteries were always paired with the GU. That is wrong. These features are available separately or together. So you can get lithium without the GU and vice versa. All Axions are prewired for both options.

Second, and very important, is Hymerís service strategy for non-chassis defects and repairs. For the most part, dealers do not do service. When a repair, warranty or not, is needed the customer calls Hymer who has engaged and trained independent RV repair only or customizing shops across the country. Hymer then directs the customer to the nearest facility, no matter where the customer is at the moment. Donít call a dealer. Thatís a relief!

For example, the customer I mentioned previously who bought the $58k deal got an AGM/no GU vehicle and will have the lithium and GU options installed by Hymerís local service provider. So happens the owner of that local shop, Tony Peneda, was at the show. He has 17 years of factory trained RV product service, custom modification, and installation. So I asked him about replacing the puny bathroom fan with a Maxx Fan or a Fantastic Fan. He said that would be easy as long as there is room. He did not offer a price. I got the impression he was quite knowledgeable.

So here are some pics of the roof (I hope). Even though this Axion has no TV, the antenna is present.
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Also, a photo of the price promo: obviously trying for a windfall.

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So, by this time you've probably guessed who that $58 customer is.


You need 14" square for the fan.
I don't thnk you have it there.
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You need 14" square for the fan.
I don't thnk you have it there.
I agree... it looks too small to me...
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Old 10-15-2017, 09:43 PM   #110
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You can put the solar on stilts and put the FF underneath.
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