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Old 05-03-2019, 02:06 AM   #541
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We "flush" with antifreeze all winter. We just put a small amount of antifreeze in the toilet bowl after each use for the next time. We use it only for liguids and a little toilet paper, no solids. We didn't dump it until we dewinteriized. I am not sure how the macerator would handle it. For some reason I thought the Carado's had cassette toilets. I am not sure how it would work with those.
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Old 05-03-2019, 02:30 PM   #542
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Only the Aktiv models have the cassette toilet.

For years when I traveled in the winter back and forth to AZ, I flushed with antifreeze. I can't see that it would matter with the macerator toilet, but you might want to consult the company that makes the toilet to see what they say.
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Old 05-04-2019, 04:53 AM   #543
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Old 07-22-2019, 06:19 AM   #544
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Just saw an Axion 18' Promaster parked at See Grins in Gilroy CA. Did notice Ecotrek 400 but no Voltstart. Looked like a nav screen in the dash. Didn't get all the details, like if separate holding tanks (doubtful). Some pics on Canadian site US equivalent of Canadian price about $73k. Bed folds out to sleep 2, but it looks short for tall people. 2 seat belts up front only.
Iíve been wishing for looking for a minivan length RV for a long time. This comes pretty close at 17í9Ē. I knew it was not good quality when I bought it (06/19), but itís the size I want. I got it for just under $73k at DeMartini RV in Grass Valley CA. I still have my 2016 Winnebago Travato 59k which I love, but gotta sell it now.

Here are my observations so far:
1. NEGATIVES: Cheap materials. Cheaply put together. Some panels are not even glued or screwed. So there is a lot of rattling. The drawers donít stay shut. Macerating toilet when there is already a macerator? Donít understand! No ceiling fan, not even in the bathroom because of the loft. The loft tent is difficult to open and shut. It takes a lot of effort. The loft mattress is very hard and uncomfortable.

2. POSITIVES: I love how small it is yet still feels spacious. My wife said it doesnít feel any smaller than our Travato 59k which is 39 inches longer. I love all the counter space with the 2 extensions. I love the position of the refrigerator which can be accessed without coming in. I love that it can sleep 5 people (including the front seats conversion). My boy sleeping in the front, my wife sleeping on the bed (unextended so that all of us can use the bathroom at night), and me sleeping in the loft felt somewhat private and spacious. Amazing for a 17í9Ē van. Storage is plenty for us with the wardrobe and 3 deep drawers underneath. I love the rear bathroom, better than my 59k rear bathroom because it is more integrated to the cabin with a bigger opening. And when you leave the back doors open, you donít feel like you are in a 17í van at all. I love the undermount ac. It is much quieter than the roof mounted ones and it is 12v so I can run it with just the batteries. After that, I can start the engine to recharge much quicker than anything Iíve experienced (Iíve had 9 rvs). And so far, I havenít felt the need for solar because the battery lasts so long. I love the eco trek 400 with the 2000w inverter. Actually, I donít really need the inverter except for the microwave. Everything else runs on 12v. BTW, the AC can run on just one ecotrek switch (200a).

I thought not having a fantastic fan would be a big issue but the loft version of Axion comes with a central fan, installed under the bed, that sucks air out from any window thatís open so I havenít felt so hot even in the 100+ degree California weather. I think the extra insulation with the loft mattress helps a lot.

So far, Iíve added the sumo springs for the rear suspension and thatís made the already easy driving even better. I am planning on replacing the toilet with a cassette kind. That way, I wonít be desperate to find a dump site, and I will have my precious 17 gallons for shower and sink. 17.6 is not enough so Iím considering converting the 22g waste tank to hold fresh water.

Let me know if you have any questions.

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I thought I was bad about trading RVs so often... LOL... you put me to shame. (9 in 13 years!! I only have 4 in 15... but already planning the next one)

I asked about the macerating toilet plus macerator because it didn't make sense to me. Don't know about the accuracy of the answer but the person told me that it was an "odd path" from toilet to tank which the toilet helped avoid plugs between the two. With the second to be normal facilitation of dumping. You'll have to look.

La Mesa bought all the remaining loft Axions from the 'big factory sale' and have about a dozen or so of them fully loaded priced in the high $60s. So, you didn't do too badly on the price. There are still a few dealers listing them in the $80s.
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Old 07-22-2019, 03:01 PM   #546
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We bought our Axion last Nov and couldn't be happier for the same reasons you listed. Sure it has some quirks, which RV doesn't. Though some are serious. If you haven't done so already make sure you attend to the UG coolant issue and plastic cover rubbing on the wiring harness. Also the Balmar (UG voltage regulator), inverter and solar controller need to be reprogrammed. Check out SUIET hack's for the new configs https://sites.google.com/view/suiet-...ecotrek-system. Also the Carado, ecotrek, and Axion FB group are great source of info as well.
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Old 07-27-2019, 06:10 PM   #547
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Toilet is not over the tank so need to push using the macerator. By the way, toilet has a sensor that shuts the toilet off when tank nears full.
Going to a cassette type toilet sounds good, I have considered this to get more capacity for sink and shower and make it easier to camp in the cold. Thetford has a nice one that you can get a floor plate to secure it.
Overall quality not too bad considering the price. Quite happy overall and getting a lot of use for local as well as camping.
I need to add insulation, especially in the roof. Trying to figure out how to get access without removing the entire interior.
Not having a warranty ended up not so bad since I don't have to worry about doing something that voids the warranty and don't have to find and wait for service.
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Old 09-05-2019, 07:36 PM   #548
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Can someone tell me what the two black openings are (next to the 4 rear roof red lights)?

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Old 09-06-2019, 10:42 AM   #549
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Vent for the grey/black tank on the right. The one on the left could vent the sink and toilet but not sure.
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Can someone tell me what the two black openings are (next to the 4 rear roof red lights)?

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Vent for the grey/black tank on the right. The one on the left could vent the sink and toilet but not sure.
Can't tell from the picture, but if the opening is not screened, it might be a good idea to zip-tie a little patch of window screen over the vent. Not that I've ever heard of any critters blocking them up.
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