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Old 04-03-2019, 04:33 PM   #1
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Default New wheels and tires for our Sprinter 3500

A little update to the look of our DIYvan Sprinter 3500 170 that I built a few years ago. We had Alcoa wheels on it and needed new tires so we decided to update the look of our van with some new wheels also.





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Those wheels look sharp on your Sprinter. Wondering how do you rotate your tires with wheels like that. I have Alcoa's on my 3500, and because they are only finished on one side they can't be flipped around when rotating front to back. Also the rear inside wheel on mine is steel since apparently the wheel lugs were not long enough for two Alcoa's, so only the outside wheels in the rear are Alcoa. Always been a pain and expense to rotate because tires have to be remounted and rebalanced. Curious what your experience has been with Alcoa and your new ones.
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Routine tire rotation is generally not cost-effective. Its purpose is to keep you coming into the service center. Certainly not worth the hassle and expense.

Just keep your suspension in good shape.
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Routine tire rotation is generally not cost-effective. Its purpose is to keep you coming into the service center. Certainly not worth the hassle and expense.

Just keep your suspension in good shape.

I used to think this way a lot more than I do now. I also have been changing my mind on rotation pattern if you do rotate them.


I tend to keep the vehicles in very good condition, so no loose front end parts or bad alignments, etc. I also watch the tire wear patterns and pressures closely.


Front drivers do tend to wear the front tires more than the rears, I would guess as high as 2 to 1 on some of the cars we have had, and in the past a lot of gurus were saying to only rotate front to rear, even if the tires were non directional. The theory had something to do with the rotation direction wear pattern would make traction and wear better if not changed. What I found happening was that there certainly was a directional pattern over time, and really only major on any edges of tread that were across the tread face. Circumferential tread is continuous so no pattern. The leading edges would wear faster than the rest of the tread so each tire "block" would be a little wedge shape. Whether this improved anything was something I could not tell, either better or worse, but what it did do was tend to make some tires get really noisy as they wore down.



I have since started doing the normal 4 or 5 tire rotation patterns and the blocks now stay flat, and quiet.



I do my own rotations at home, so cost is zero for us, so not a big deal, as I really like to get a look at the brakes every 10K miles or so anyway which means the wheels are off.


A lot of places offer free lifetime rotation with new tire purchases which can be a good deal for those that don't do their own, and normally doesn't increase the cost of the tires. Two of our vehicles have that with the new tires, but we never use it. If you do have the free rotation be very aware of why they offer it for free. First and foremost they want to get you there and vehicle on the hoist so they can check stuff and try to sell you things like alignments, brakes, shocks, mufflers, air cleaners, oil change, trans flush, batteries, wiper blades, etc. If you do take advantage of the free rotation, be sure expect the sales pitch, and/or just tell them you only want the rotation and not to do the other checks. When I got the last set of tires for my old Escort, they broke the air cleaner box cover while checking it. Luckily they had a window to the shop and saw it happen, and when I asked about it they said they always check everything as a service and that the cover was already broken. They did finally buy a new one for it, though, after a few phone calls. If you see the hood open when getting tires rotated, you either have very weird tire locations or they are going places they don't need to be.
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Front drivers do tend to wear the front tires more than the rears, I would guess as high as 2 to 1 on some of the cars we have had
True. But, no need to replace the fronts and rears at the same time.
Sometimes, I move front to rear during a tire replacement.
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Routine tire rotation is generally not cost-effective. Its purpose is to keep you coming into the service center. Certainly not worth the hassle and expense.

Just keep your suspension in good shape.
I've been rotating my own tires for decades. All you need is a good floor jack and some heavy duty jack stands. Rotating your tires regularly extends their lifespan.
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Those wheels look sharp on your Sprinter. Wondering how do you rotate your tires with wheels like that. I have Alcoa's on my 3500, and because they are only finished on one side they can't be flipped around when rotating front to back. Also the rear inside wheel on mine is steel since apparently the wheel lugs were not long enough for two Alcoa's, so only the outside wheels in the rear are Alcoa. Always been a pain and expense to rotate because tires have to be remounted and rebalanced. Curious what your experience has been with Alcoa and your new ones.
Thank you for for the compliment and for asking about rotation. I am fairly certain that Discount Tire will rotate them for us even if they have to remount them. We never did that with the last set of tires and the wear was even all across the tire. I am probably due for an alignment check so will have that done soon. I don't plan to rotate unless I start seeing un-even wear. One should probably include the spare in the rotation sequence so that does complicate things a little.

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I have the same wheels for my Crossfit except in chrome. Wanted the black but they were 4 weeks out. Nice wheels. Mine were courtesy of my Discount Tire who destroyed the pvd finish on the upgrade wheels that came with the unit. The new wheels were provided free of charge without issue. They owned up to their screw up.
It turned out better for me since I DO rotate my tires every oil change usually and purchased the warranties for the stock Hankooks to get this done free. The original wheels had the pvd chromelike finish which is very delicate and got chipped, scratched very easily. Having the duallies on the Transit the upgrade to the true chrome wheels should help eliminate any further destruction during rotations where it is necessary to dismount/mount all wheels.
BTW, the the rear duallies must have a deeper dish as I have almost 2” of gap between the rears with the stock tire sizes. That’s great as I intend on going a bit bigger soon and will need that clearance.
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What brand/model tires did you go with? Can't make it out from the photos.
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