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Old 03-17-2017, 06:50 PM   #551
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This is only Sprinter Class B sales, so you will not be counting Promaster sales by Roadtrek and Winnebago.
A very good point, I missed that. So Promaster is penetrating the B market well.

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Old 03-17-2017, 11:46 PM   #552
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This is only Sprinter Class B sales, so you will not be counting Promaster sales by Roadtrek and Winnebago.
That was my first thought - #1 Class B diesel on MB chassis - kind of limits who is in the running.
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A very good point, I missed that. So Promaster is penetrating the B market well.

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Ya think? All of Hymer/Roadtrek's gains have been on the Promaster lines. ALL of the Hymer production is on Promasters and probably will be going forward.

Parsing the numbers further would be an interesting exercise. So far only WGO has committed to Transit B's, but I haven't heard what share of production they will be. My guess is potentially 1/3 or more once they have a couple different floor plans to choose from. If that lifts their share only time will tell.
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They are asking 97k for this. I don't know if this is something to compete with the Travato, or a half-hearted attempt to have a "budget" model, with options that come standard on the Travato. MSRP to MSRP, a new Travato costs 90-92k, comes with a generator, tanks, and decent sleeping space.

I'm hoping Hymer can compete price-wise with Winnebago, because it would be nice to see some decent "B"s that are not in the 100k range, but I just have a feeling this appears to be a half-hearted attempt to feel out the market.
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They are asking 97k for this. I don't know if this is something to compete with the Travato, or a half-hearted attempt to have a "budget" model, with options that come standard on the Travato. MSRP to MSRP, a new Travato costs 90-92k, comes with a generator, tanks, and decent sleeping space.

I'm hoping Hymer can compete price-wise with Winnebago, because it would be nice to see some decent "B"s that are not in the 100k range, but I just have a feeling this appears to be a half-hearted attempt to feel out the market.
Don't forget that the margins are different for these companies - WGO discounts 25-27% typically, and RT/Hymer is 10-15% typically. So that gap is widened a bit more than what you see in the MSRP's.
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February 2017 Class B Shipment stats have been published on RVIA's site: The Recreation Vehicle Industry Association: RVIA Main Site Home

Shipments were up 63.5% compared to last February.

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Shipments are up 40% YTD !

This increased supply, assuming it continues, should benefit anyone hoping to purchase a pre-owned Class B in the years ahead.
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February 2017 Class B Shipment stats have been published on RVIA's site: The Recreation Vehicle Industry Association: RVIA Main Site Home

Shipments were up 63.5% compared to last February.

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Shipments are up 40% YTD !

This increased supply, assuming it continues, should benefit anyone hoping to purchase a pre-owned Class B in the years ahead.
This is a very welcome news, largest growth in the RV market, it should also increase competition for new B-class vans.

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LOL. What it means is that everyone's van will be worth less money on resale. Growth in the market is a double-edged sword.
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LOL. What it means is that everyone's van will be worth less money on resale. Growth in the market is a double-edged sword.
It is always a matter of perspective, more and younger people will enjoy B-class camping, just like we did with young kids. Having a healthy competition is always better for any product to deliver a better value.

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LOL. What it means is that everyone's van will be worth less money on resale. Growth in the market is a double-edged sword.
This is an April Fools joke, right?
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