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Old 05-16-2018, 05:52 PM   #701
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I have to wonder what SpaceX is doing there. Lots and lots of aeronautical expertise here in Clear Lake Texas where our public schools are excellent and our current median home price is $216,171 (per Zillow).
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Old 08-10-2018, 05:20 PM   #702
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Default 2018 1st Half Sales Totals

Q2 2018 Class B market data are out. These are cumulative figures and thus represent the first six months for 2018.

SSI: 2018 Class B sales (registrations) up 32.8%
SSI: Class B Coach Sales Soar 32.8% for 6 Months | RV Business

RVIA: 2018 Class B wholesale shipments up 7.7% to 2977 units:
https://www.rvia.org/system/files/me...olidated_0.pdf

Market share breakdown for first half 2018 according to SSI was:
Winnebago Industries Inc. 36.8% market share.
Erwin Hymer Group North America 30.9% market share.
Thor Industries Inc. 11.6% market share.
There continues to be a significant unit growth discrepancy between sales (32.8%) and wholesale shipments (7.7%) data. Whether that is due to a backlog of inventoried units finally being sold (Hymer perhaps?) or some other wholesale to retail sales discrepancy remains to be seen.
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Old 08-10-2018, 07:21 PM   #703
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Q2 2018 Class B market data are out. These are cumulative figures and thus represent the first six months for 2018.

SSI: 2018 Class B sales (registrations) up 32.8%
SSI: Class B Coach Sales Soar 32.8% for 6 Months | RV Business

RVIA: 2018 Class B wholesale shipments up 7.7% to 2977 units:
https://www.rvia.org/system/files/me...olidated_0.pdf

Market share breakdown for first half 2018 according to SSI was:
Winnebago Industries Inc. 36.8% market share.
Erwin Hymer Group North America 30.9% market share.
Thor Industries Inc. 11.6% market share.
There continues to be a significant unit growth discrepancy between sales (32.8%) and wholesale shipments (7.7%) data. Whether that is due to a backlog of inventoried units finally being sold (Hymer perhaps?) or some other wholesale to retail sales discrepancy remains to be seen.
Interesting, thanks for the update.

Just proves the concern I had when we decided to get into rv'ing last year. Even though we bought used, we paid "top of the market" prices. When we finally went traveling, we found many parks full, or at least they said the numerous empty slots were "reserved". And even though we found helpful "Park Hosts" that helped us find a slot, that was off-season before labor day.

Overall RV sales are following the same trend as class B's, so it looks like the prices, build quality, and park congestion will only get worst. Too bad I wasn't able to retire a decade sooner.

Still, on a 13 day round trip in May from the South Texas Coast to Yellowstone, we encountered only a handful of class B's.
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Old 11-12-2018, 04:06 PM   #704
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Default 2018 Q3 Cumulative Sales

Q3 2018 Class B market data are out. These are cumulative figures and represent the first nine months of 2018.

SSI: 2018 Class B sales (registrations) up 28.5%
SSI: 'B' Sales Continue Rise; Up 28.5% in Sept. | RV Business

RVIA: 2018 Class B wholesale shipments up 10.7% to 4465 units:
https://www.rvia.org/system/files/me...18_Summary.pdf

Market share breakdown for the first nine months of 2018 according to SSI was:
Winnebago Industries Inc. 38.8% market share.
Erwin Hymer Group North America 29.9% market share.
Thor Industries Inc. 11.0% market share.
A couple items of note:

1) Winnebago market share continues to increase while ERwin Hymer North America's relative share declines. Once Thor Industries completes their acquisition of Erwin Hymer in 2019 it will be a very close race, with Thor's potential combined share slightly topping Winnebago at the moment but on a downward trend. Meanwhile Winnebago's share continues to trend upward.

2) Class B Vans were the only wholesale motorized RV segment to grow in 2018 according to RVIA, with 10.7% growth in shipments while Class A declined 2.3% and Class C units declined 7.3%.
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Old 11-12-2018, 04:49 PM   #705
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Thanks for the update.


It will be interesting to see what happens. Will some of the Hymer brands or models get dropped? Will Airstream vans be promoted as the top of the line? We'll see soon enough I guess.
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Class B Vans were the only wholesale motorized RV segment to grow in 2018 according to RVIA, with 10.7% growth in shipments while Class A declined 2.3% and Class C units declined 7.3%.
Maybe someday the market share of B-vans will creep up to more than negligible.
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Default 2018 Total Annual Sales

Full year 2018 Class B market data are now available.

SSI: 2018 Class B sales (registrations) up 28.3%
https://www.rvbusiness.com/blog/ssi-...3-in-2018.html

RVIA: 2018 Class B wholesale shipments up 12.0% to 5881 units:
https://www.rvia.org/system/files/me...Dec-18_Sum.pdf

Market share breakdown for 2018 according to SSI:
Winnebago Industries Inc. 40.0% market share.
Erwin Hymer Group North America 28.8% market share.
Thor Industries Inc. 10.8% market share.

A few comments:

The growth discrepancy between sales (28.3%) and wholesale shipments (12.0%) continues although it narrowed somewhat during the year. Whether RVIA reported wholesale shipments might include false Roadtrek/EHGNA VIN numbers is unclear. Actual SSI vehicle sales registrations presumably would not be corrupted non-existent vehicle VINs.

Class B sales, although still relatively small, have been the bright spot in the RV industry for growth rate. By comparison Class A registrations slipped 2.7% while wholesale shipments dropped 33.7%. Class C registrations showed zero growth but wholesale shipments fell 37.3%.

The shutdown and subsequent bankruptcy proceedings of Erwin Hymer Group NA will certainly impact 2019 shipments and registrations. It will be interesting to see whether other manufacturers can fill some of that gap or a resurrected Roadtrek could recover some market share.
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I’m seeing a lot of Winnebago Travatos here in the southwest and mostly much older Roadtreks. I’m at Organ Pipe Cactus NM CG right now. Lots of Bs more than back east and north but Airstream trailers still number more in this 200 campsite CG. Class As, Class Cs and large trailers dominate and this is a transient CG not a stay over winter and park it CG.
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Iím seeing a lot of Winnebago Travatos here in the southwest and mostly much older Roadtreks. Iím at Organ Pipe Cactus NM CG right now. Lots of Bs more than back east and north but Airstream trailers still number more in this 200 campsite CG. Class As, Class Cs and large trailers dominate and this is a transient CG not a stay over winter and park it CG.
Agreed. We were there for one night last Saturday.

On TDY near Kearny AZ at the free campground leaving tomorrow for Tombstone.
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I was in the market and very excited by some of the Hymer/Roadtrek offerings in 2018. Now it looks like limited supply, higher prices and I will probably wait a few years since it is not a good time to be a consumer with 30% of the competition now eliminated in the past few month. To make matters worse, I have to question used models that may be newer but have no manufacturer warranty available anymore and possibly hard to find or more expensive parts.
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