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Old 05-12-2019, 08:01 PM   #721
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SSI has released 2019 first quarter Class B registration data (which closely follows retail sales) with 9.3% growth over the first quarter last year. That's in contrast to Q1 wholesale shipments that declined 35.5% compared to last year, so the retail impacts of Erwin Hymer/Roadtrek's shutdown will likely dribble in over the next few quarters.

RVIA Wholesale Class B shipments (as previously reported) down 35.5% to 842 units in Q1:
https://www.rvia.org/news-insights/r...nts-march-2019
SSI Class B sales registrations continue to climb with 9.3% growth:
https://www.rvbusiness.com/blog/ssi-...ee-months.html
SSI Market share breakdown:
Winnebago Industries Inc. 41.7% market share.
Erwin Hymer / Roadtrek zombie: 27% market share.
Forest River 10.2% market share.
It will be interesting to see how Forest River (Coachmen) versus Thor (Airstream) sales figures shake out over the next few months.
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Old 05-13-2019, 12:14 AM   #722
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SSI has released 2019 first quarter Class B registration data (which closely follows retail sales) with 9.3% growth over the first quarter last year. That's in contrast to Q1 wholesale shipments that declined 35.5% compared to last year, so the retail impacts of Erwin Hymer/Roadtrek's shutdown will likely dribble in over the next few quarters.

I wonder if some of the past high wholesale shipment numbers for Hymer are related to the comments in the closing of Hymer about falsified VIN numbers and sales? If so they may not show up as registrations or retail sales.
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Old 05-13-2019, 12:36 AM   #723
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I wonder if some of the past high wholesale shipment numbers for Hymer are related to the comments in the closing of Hymer about falsified VIN numbers and sales? If so they may not show up as registrations or retail sales.
Good point...
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Old 05-13-2019, 01:52 PM   #724
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It's interesting to see that there is could be several months worth of supply of new EHGNA units still sitting on dealer lots.

I picked one site - RV Trader - https://tinyurl.com/y3oo5548

There are some Jeeps mixed in unfortunately but still there could be over 300 new EHGNA Class B units listed on RV Trader alone.

Edit: total units as of today's date at the time I created the link is 371 (including jeeps etc.) The link should continue to work so we should be able to see how the total changes in the coming months.
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It's interesting to see that there is could be several months worth of supply of new EHGNA units still sitting on dealer lots.


I picked one site - RV Trader - https://tinyurl.com/y3oo5548


There are some Jeeps mixed in unfortunately but still there could be over 300 new EHGNA Class B units listed on RV Trader alone.

That is interesting if there really are that many still sitting around.



It was long ago when we were looking for a van, I did find that on sites like RVtrader that when you went to find the particular van at a dealer they were just listed as ones that were "on allocation" from the various factories and not actually made or delivered yet. I have no idea if this is still common or not, as that was in 2006/2008 timeframe.
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This link at RV Trader brings up 198 2019 Roadtrek and Hymers being available new, including trailers. There are 118 Roadtreks, the rest are Hymers.
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Old 06-02-2019, 06:55 PM   #727
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It's interesting to see that there is could be several months worth of supply of new EHGNA units still sitting on dealer lots.

I picked one site - RV Trader - https://tinyurl.com/y3oo5548

There are some Jeeps mixed in unfortunately but still there could be over 300 new EHGNA Class B units listed on RV Trader alone.

Edit: total units as of today's date (May 13) at the time I created the link is 371 (including jeeps etc.) The link should continue to work so we should be able to see how the total changes in the coming months.
Total as of June 2 is down to 332. It should continue to trend down.

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Shipments from current Class B Van manufacturers are down for April. 53.6% down compared to last April - https://www.rvia.org/system/files/me...Apr-19_Sum.pdf -

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Pretty shocking declines. While the class b market is probably impacted by Roadtrek/Hymer troubles, what would explain the towables and class A & C declines? Customers aged out of the market? Foretelling of impending economic problems?
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RV sales are down. The canary in the cage?
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Its important to recognize, these are shipments, not sales. Given the number of 2018 "new" units that appear to be for sale, it may be last years numbers were inflated by over-production which lead to reductions in shipping this year as they needed to clear existing inventory. Sales or registration figures would give you a more accurate picture of the current retail market for RV's.
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