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dhc8guru 06-16-2018 09:47 PM

Airstream Atlas Murphy bed
 
Anyone seen one in person? Just saw a video on one and it is impressive. Actually to me this is the perfect floorplan for me. At $217k, I don't expect to sell many.
If Winnebago did this floorplan for the $120k range, I would be all over it!

Roadtrek Adventuous RS1 06-17-2018 02:17 AM

Yeah, over $250,000......
 
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Originally Posted by dhc8guru (Post 75006)
Anyone seen one in person? Just saw a video on one and it is impressive. Actually to me this is the perfect floorplan for me. At $217k, I don't expect to sell many.
If Winnebago did this floorplan for the $120k range, I would be all over it!

WOW...$250,000 ....I think I'd rather have a Roadtrek E-TREK for $145,000 to $150,000 and save the money..... Also, I understand that Airstream has a 3 year warranty compared to the 6 years warranty from Roadtrek.....

By the way... Winnebago has a one year warranty.... And, while I have seen a Winnebago Navion with the Murphy bed...it's OKAY... but, not in the same class... finishing details on the Navion are not even as nice as the high end Roadtrek RS, CS or E-TREK.....

Look at them for yourself....

mp33golf 06-17-2018 02:17 AM

I thought I had finally found what I was looking for based on the marketing video from Airstream.. Went to the dealership and I could not believe how badly made it was. Pleasure Way murphy bed model was superior in quality and better price.

Roadtrek Adventuous RS1 06-17-2018 02:32 AM

Very unfortunate
 
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Originally Posted by mp33golf (Post 75020)
I thought I had finally found what I was looking for based on the marketing video from Airstream.. Went to the dealership and I could not believe how badly made it was. Pleasure Way murphy bed model was superior in quality and better price.

Saw a review of the Airstream Atlas.... looked pretty good... guess you don't really know until you see it person....

I was recently inside the E-TREK... it's VERY NICE...at an RV show.. they wanted to sell it to me for $143,000... I'm fine with my current situation.... don't want more debt...

At $143 k and the extemely generous warranty..... I think it's a good deal, I'm not ready for that.

mp33golf 06-17-2018 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Roadtrek Adventuous RS1 (Post 75023)
Saw a review of the Airstream Atlas.... looked pretty good... guess you don't really know until you see it person....

I was recently inside the E-TREK... it's VERY NICE...at an RV show.. they wanted to sell it to me for $143,000... I'm fine with my current situation.... don't want more debt...

At $143 k and the extemely generous warranty..... I think it's a good deal, I'm not ready for that.

I agree with you 100% - you must see it before you buy

dhuff 06-17-2018 11:19 PM

"Actually to me this is the perfect floorplan for me."

The Leisure Travel Vans Unity and Wonder models have similar "murphy bed" layouts avail., if I remember correctly. https://leisurevans.com

Roadtrek Adventuous RS1 06-17-2018 11:38 PM

They certainly do have a similar floorplan
 
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Originally Posted by dhuff (Post 75051)
"Actually to me this is the perfect floorplan for me."

The Leisure Travel Vans Unity and Wonder models have similar "murphy bed" layouts avail., if I remember correctly. https://leisurevans.com

My wife didn't like the Murphy Bed....takes up too much room to walk around the coach in the front...and it doesn't give you a separate seating area.... just a preference...

They're not inexpensive either, but, less than the Airstream Atlas...

mumkin 06-18-2018 03:33 AM

Less money than the Airstream, but top quality... built by people who care. Wonderful company, LTV/EEE


I just wish that they still made a B.

dhc8guru 06-19-2018 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by mp33golf (Post 75020)
I thought I had finally found what I was looking for based on the marketing video from Airstream.. Went to the dealership and I could not believe how badly made it was. Pleasure Way murphy bed model was superior in quality and better price.

Awe, thats disappointing.
I'll go back to my next dream machine, the LTV wonder (all layouts). Too me it is probably there best all around model (price point, features, size etc) Please no one tell me it's a POS. I'll be heartbroken.

Roadtrek Adventuous RS1 06-19-2018 01:42 AM

It's definitely not a POS..
 
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Originally Posted by dhc8guru (Post 75144)
Awe, thats disappointing.
I'll go back to my next dream machine, the LTV wonder (all layouts). Too me it is probably there best all around model (price point, features, size etc) Please no one tell me it's a POS. I'll be heartbroken.

It's certainly beautiful... Don't expect anyone to say otherwise...

Couple of things.. I met someone who has this... ask about a spare tire..he was promised one and didn't get it...

Keep an eye on the roof.. ask about the seam warranty...

Expect 15 MPG... it's a Class C.... there's no such thing as a B Plus...

I love the space... ask what the extra weight limit is for carrying passengers and gear with all fluids, fuel, water , propane tank all filled... You might be surprised so it's better to know in advance....

dhc8guru 06-19-2018 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Roadtrek Adventuous RS1 (Post 75145)
It's certainly beautiful... Don't expect anyone to say otherwise...

Couple of things.. I met someone who has this... ask about a spare tire..he was promised one and didn't get it...

Keep an eye on the roof.. ask about the seam warranty...

Expect 15 MPG... it's a Class C.... there's no such thing as a B Plus...

I love the space... ask what the extra weight limit is for carrying passengers and gear with all fluids, fuel, water , propane tank all filled... You might be surprised so it's better to know in advance....

I assume your talking about the
Wonder and not the Atlas. Yeah, I read some people having unrepairable (or cost prohibitive leaks in the roofs of the unity's. Seems like all the sprinter chassis's are heavily weight restricted.

So far I have only been impressed with the Crossfit as far as true class B's. I want to see a Paseo in person.

BBQ 06-19-2018 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by dhc8guru (Post 75146)
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So far I have only been impressed with the Crossfit as far as true class B's. I want to see a Paseo in person.


If you want to see a Paseo, you better hurry. I heard it is being discontinued.

dhc8guru 06-19-2018 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by BBQ (Post 75153)
If you want to see a Paseo, you better hurry. I heard it is being discontinued.

That's hard to believe they would do that after a two year run.
Maybe they are going to do a redesign?
Position it better between the Era and Travato line.

Roadtrek Adventuous RS1 06-19-2018 04:16 AM

It's the dashboard that I don't like
 
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Originally Posted by BBQ (Post 75153)
If you want to see a Paseo, you better hurry. I heard it is being discontinued.

Too confining in the front cabin... Paseo side seating in the rear doesn't appeal to me...and it's a gasoline engine...... I drove a Ford Transit and was not impressed.... sorry....

Saw some 2018 online for $90,000... maybe some of you would like it...


https://www.rvt.com/Winnebago-Paseo-...58820-UX151085

Roadtrek Adventuous RS1 06-19-2018 04:43 AM

The Airstream Atlas is $300,000 with tax, license and registration...
 
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Originally Posted by dhc8guru (Post 75146)
I assume your talking about the
Wonder and not the Atlas. Yeah, I read some people having unrepairable (or cost prohibitive leaks in the roofs of the unity's. Seems like all the sprinter chassis's are heavily weight restricted.

So far I have only been impressed with the Crossfit as far as true class B's. I want to see a Paseo in person.

I'm sure that it's wonderful... could still be a problem with the roof down the line...
Unrepairable leaks in the Unity??? That's horrible if true...I presume you mean too expensive to fix..? All relative isn't it?

Again, the space is great.. but, I purchased an RV for traveling and touring... don't want complicated roof seams.... I almost purchased a Winnebago Navion...then the sales guy says that the roof is guaranteed for 10 years... but, not the seams.... Yikes...the seams are the roof... who's he kidding..?

That was a major consideration for me... I wanted something simpler...I'm not saying that the Class B is never going to leak... but, it's much less likely than any Class C roof...and all of these B pluses are really Class C's...

The Airstream Atlas is one hell of a rig....it's priced way over $200,000 and I'm sure you can get it lower.. but..how many people are going to walk in and hand them a check for $225,000... plus taxes... that's another 10 percent...or $22,500... If you finance it over 20 years consider it to be a half million dollars...

YES.... I know you can't take it with you..... heard all that.... thanks...
BUT...this is a depreciating asset.....and you lose a lot of money driving off the lot and much more in the first three years.....

I'm fine with my 2012 Roadtrek RS Adventurous.... not upgrading anytime soon...I think it's pretty nice already.....

What a damn shame about the Leisure Travel Unity... I personally know someone who has this coach... later in the year I'll ask him if I see him... doesn't live near us.... I'm really surprised to hear that there's been problems out there with a coach of this reputation..

One thing I do like about Roadtrek... they only build Class B's.... Leisure Travel used to make Class B's...wonder why they stopped??

I'm NOT impressed with the quality of the lower quality Hymer Carrado..and some other low priced models....The CS, RS and E-Trek seems to be the flagship models of Roadtrek...they seem to have a higher quality control.. just my opinion...saw them at a recent RV show...

Don't know why you mentioned the heavily weight restriction...you didn't mean the Class B's like my RS Adventurous?? I can load an additional 3,000 pounds of people and cargo...I'll never reach this ....The dual wheels in the back really make this a very strong vehicle for weight capacity....total gross vehicle weight is just over 15,000 pounds.....

Maybe you were referring to the Unity or Atlas with the larger coach on the back?? Yes, I've heard that there are some Class As like the Thor Ace where you can't put much more weight on the rig after you've loaded up all the fluids......other Class A's as well with tons of space ... limited weight capacity.....

gregmchugh 06-19-2018 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Roadtrek Adventuous RS1 (Post 75160)

Don't know why you mentioned the heavily weight restriction...you didn't mean the Class B's like my RS Adventurous?? I can load an additional 3,000 pounds of people and cargo...I'll never reach this ....The dual wheels in the back really make this a very strong vehicle for weight capacity....total gross vehicle weight is just over 15,000 pounds.....

Maybe you were referring to the Unity or Atlas with the larger coach on the back?? Yes, I've heard that there are some Class As like the Thor Ace where you can't put much more weight on the rig after you've loaded up all the fluids......other Class A's as well with tons of space ... limited weight capacity.....

That 15,000+ lb number for the Sprinter is the GCWR which includes the weight of something being towed. The GVWR of your Sprinter is 5,000 lb less than that...

dhuff 06-19-2018 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by dhc8guru (Post 75144)
I'll go back to my next dream machine, the LTV wonder (all layouts). Too me it is probably there best all around model (price point, features, size etc) Please no one tell me it's a POS. I'll be heartbroken.

Just recently, I've heard some grumbling about LTV quality control issues. They used to have a pretty decent reputation, so I wonder if this could be the result of rushing vehicles thru production to meet higher demand ? If you're interested in their products, it'd be a good idea to keep an ear to the ground on their owners' Facebook page, forums like this, etc...

I like the Wonder myself, and heard that they were going to offer a rear twin bed floorplan, which is our favorite floorplan for their Unity model. So I hope the QC issues, if they're really a thing, are just a blip on the radar and not a continuing concern.

ponti33602 06-19-2018 02:20 PM

Looking initially at the unity is what my wife started with in her 18-month quest. Funny to see we we landed but also shows how this really is, or should be a very well planned purchasing event.

She was for sure going to buy a Unity MB her first 2-months of the journey.

This being said we really thought the fit/finish of LTV was really good. She next migrated to the Free Spirit SS. Finally to a 144".

Keyne 06-19-2018 03:02 PM

I am surprised that the Atlas is so expensive... there doesn't seem to be anything remarkable about it to demand such a price vs the competition (Leisure Travel Vans, Pleasure Way wide bodies, Coach House). Am I missing something or is it all about the Airstream brand premium??

Boxster1971 06-19-2018 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by gregmchugh (Post 75170)
That 15,000+ lb number for the Sprinter is the GCWR which includes the weight of something being towed. The GVWR of your Sprinter is 5,000 lb less than that...


The Sprinters come in three GVWR's 8550, 9900 and 11030, depending on model.

Roadtrek Adventurous RS1 - your Sprinter likely has a GVWR of 11,030 lbs. Have you weighed your van? It probably weighs over 9,500 lbs empty. So you can carry about 1,500 lbs, not 3,000.


- - Mike
2012 Sprinter 3500 Extended converted B-Van by Airstream


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