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Old 08-26-2020, 04:32 AM   #1
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New class B owners (Era) here... Our first trip is going to be a quick overnight jaunt near home (WA), but after that the wife and I are thinking of heading for southern Utah and then the Las Vegas area in the fall. I'm an experienced hiker, backpacker, and car camper, and even a one time pop-up camper owner, but new at this type of vehicle or traveling this far.

Anyway, looking for suggestions as to places to stay near the 3 national parks in southern Utah (Arches, Canyonlands, Zion) that would be accessible to a 24 foot class B. We are also wondering about crowding in late September to mid October. Should we try to make reservations ahead of time, or can we go more in the spirit of class B, which to me means just go!

And finally, if there are places/things we should definitely avoid, I would love to know about that also.

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Old 08-26-2020, 08:26 AM   #2
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I "used to" ride the 4 corners area on my motorcycle lots- it is mostly Navajo, and much of the area has been shut down ( even to through traffic) particularly on weekends.
One they open they sorely need economic activity

The places i like...and take Pals riding from Phoenix:

Grand Canyon
Tuba City- Code talkers museum
Monument Valley
Mexican Hat UT ( rafting san juan river, goosenecks)

Moki Dugway- gravel road going up the escarpement on UT 291 takes you right to Natural Bridges monument ( & campground) & you'll see the Bears Ears

From there east of 95 you can head for moab, or the 4 corners...

I have a 1-person boycott of Blanding UT over the town and chamber of commerce support of removing protections for lands in the Bears Ears National Monument

Cortez and Durango are in CO and silverton


Canyon DeChelly is back on the AZ side


that's where I like to go- and really just go, I've never made much in the way of plans or reservations


Other areas of the AZ/UT border ( colorado city) have been fundamentalist cult towns and not friendly to city folk
I don't get as much enjoyment from SW utah. But I could be wrong- some of the big parks are over there zion, escalante.

most if not all of this is at 5000+ elevation- nice and cool


Vegas used to cater to RV's at many casino lots, bally's was a good one- then about 6 years ago they all started charging- then the charges dropped when they tried attracting business- check online as one resort might be free and the place next door $30


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My favorite National Park in southern Utah is Capitol Reef. The campground is in the middle of a maintained old orchard and depending on when you are there you can pick your own fruits and pay on the honor system. There are very good hiking trails accessible from the campground and up the short road. Nearby Torrey, UT had a variety of restaurants if you wanted to take a break from "camping."
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Old 08-26-2020, 03:35 PM   #4
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We spent about two months in southern Utah this spring per the attached map. (The 'tent' icons represent our campsites).




Our first comment - - a general observation not related to Utah specifically - - is that the era of the "Itinerant Traveler/Camper" (at least in this 2020 Covid year) may be over. The crowds this summer have been enormous and, with the nearly universal adoption of "reservations only" campgrounds (virtually every state and federal facility in Utah, for example), the wandering camper is essentially locked-out of these campgrounds.

Your salvation may be your timing. In the past we have found that spring and fall camping represents a near perfect blend of fair weather and lowered crowds. But beware that the fall may still be in the "peak" season for southern Utah as that area is nearly intolerable mid-summer.

You did not mention one of our favorite southern Utah National Parks: Bryce. Don’t miss it. But here’s the real tip - - a hidden gem just a few miles southeast of Bryce (outside of Cannonville, Utah) - - Kodachrome State Park. There is a very nice campground in the Park and some not-too-difficult hikes, including the most popular (which we strongly recommend) “Angel’s Palace Trail”.

If you get down to St. Georges . . . there is a beautiful little state park nestled in the hugely picturesque red rocks, Snow Canyon State Park.

We can’t be of too much help on Zion as we arrived just as the park was opening, but before any of its campgrounds were open. We spent several nights at the Lamps Knoll BLM Campground west of Zion. It’s mostly a parking spot for some interesting climbs (technical and non-technical) into the rock formations behind it along with a number of tent camp sites ‘walking distance’ from the parking lot. But it was clear that campers such as ours were using it and, for us, the important feature was its ‘outhouse’. No water or electric though. By the way, we recommend the non-technical climb/hike - - good exercise and great views.

If you wander toward Corel Pink Sand Dunes (State Park) . . . mostly for people with ‘dune buggies’ . . . we found the nearby Ponderosa Grove BLM Campground much less hectic and modestly priced ($2.50 for seniors!). But no water. (This places you in striking distance of Kanab, Utah if that is on your itinerary.)

You also didn’t mention Capitol Reef National Park. There are several Forest Service campgrounds approaching Capitol Reef from the south on Route 12, but our favorite is the Single Tree Forest Service Campground that does have water and electric and some ‘first come, first served’ campsites.

Other worthy points of interest are Natural Bridges National Monument (a not too bad alternative to the very overcrowded Arches National Park). There are views available to the non-hiker as well as at least one doable hike (to an arch) that old-fossils such as ourselves can take. The campgrounds there were not open earlier this summer but suspect they are now.

And this will set you up for one of the ‘most interesting drives’ you can take, south from Natural Bridges on Utah Route 241 to the Moki Dugway. It’s very doable in a 26' RV, but the unguarded tight switchbacks and associated descent may take your breath away.

And while you're in the area, take-in Goosenecks State Park near Mexican Hat, Utah. Goosenecks is a very bland (minimal vegetation) but natural wonder along the San Juan River. Not nearly as famous (or crowded) as the Horseshoe Bend near Page, Arizona but, with its three ‘horsehoes’, arguably more spectacular. There's a State Park Campground right there - - and you probably don’t need a reservation!

Canyonlands has three major areas with two being accessible by car: 1) the eastern entry known as the Needles; and, 2) the northern entry (through Moab), known as Island in the Sky. Approaching the eastern “Needles” entry from the south along US 191, one of our favorite (we’ve been there several times) campgrounds is Devils Canyon Forest Service Campground. There are several BLM and/or Forest Service campgrounds as you approach the east Needles park boundary including Hamburger Rock BLM Campground (no H20), an immediate favorite due to its unique campsites in an odd collection of sandstone rocks. These BLM/FS campgrounds were utterly uncrowded when we were there, all first come, first served, but maybe the dearth of visitors was the ‘heat’ (at the end of May).

The north Island in the Sky approach to Canyonlands was problematic this year due to covid. Moab was one of the last counties to ‘open’ and allow visitors. And the Deadhorse State Park is worth the drive for its views, but as a reservation-only campground, beware. There are numerous really nice BLM campgrounds along the Colorado River as you drive northeast from Moab. These are in high demand, though. By the way, that drive northeast on Utah 128 along the Colorado is a ‘must drive’ in our opinion. Catch the right sun, and its overwhelming. A safer BLM campground that we didn’t stop at this year (although have stayed there in the past), which we drove through and concluded that there were plenty of sites available was Horsethief. This is along Utah 313 as you’re driving into Canyonlands from the north.

Let us know if we can add further insights.
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All above comments good choices. I second Bryce. We went to both Bryce and Zion (different trips) in the fall (latest was the end of October) and found them reasonably uncrowded. Pre-Covid you did get a lot of foreign tourists who won't be there now but there has been a dramatic increase (as noted above) in US travelers since Covid began to limit other modes of travel/vacation.

Very close to Las Vegas is a nice park: Valley of Fire. Good campground in among the bolders. Some with electric. Showers and a dump station. Good hiking.

And Zion has some nice sites on the (Virgin?) river that have electric as well.
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Natural Bridges National Monument is another favorite as is all southern Utah. Natural Bridges has a very small campground, great hikes and is very limited in RV length so is a Class B mecca.

I think the sites are limited to about 26 feet (don't quote me on that.) It is a serious length as anything bigger cannot possibly park in the campsite and with towables there is no place to park your tow vehicle.
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KitsapEra,
I second the suggestion for Dead Horse Point State Park near Moab, Arches & Canyonlands NPs. Campground was recently expanded but shows very limited available sites in early October. https://stateparks.utah.gov/parks/dead-horse/
The Single Tree Campground mentioned above is on the Fishlake National Forest on Boulder Mountain area. https://www.fs.usda.gov/recarea/fish...a/?recid=12246
Other National Forests with campgrounds in southern Utah are the Dixie NF and Manti-LaSal NF.
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let me throw in a recommendation for Lava Hot Spring ID KOA- ( east of pocatello)- developed hot springs are a nice stroll into town
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If you like animals: Best Friends Animal Sanctuary in Kanab, Utah. It's not like any SPCA shelter you can imagine.
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