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Old 01-10-2018, 02:08 AM   #1
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This will be the new buzz word for 2018 -- Mild Hybrid

The heart of the system is an integrated Starter-Generator

A larger starter that doubles as a drive motor
plus a larger generator
All-In-One

Many cars are adopting it -- AUDI, Jeep, Honda, Toyota, Hyundai, just to name a few

Will it change the RV world too?

Did you say a larger generator?

The possibilities are endless...
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I remember seeing Jeep modifications replacing the starter with something beefier so the Jeep could be pushed along via the battery if the engine stalled out, especially in higher elevations.

I also remember some European cars having this, allowing a vehicle to be moved by the starter, which was useful for saving fuel.

What is old is new again.
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Next-gen Sprinters are supposed to have a combination alternator/starter sandwiched between the engine and the transmission. 48 volts, I think.
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I remember seeing Jeep modifications replacing the starter with something beefier so the Jeep could be pushed along via the battery if the engine stalled out, especially in higher elevations.

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What is old is new again.

That's interesting. I have not heard of this before.

This "Alternator-motor" will be in the 2018 Jeep with the 2L turbo engine.

Fuel economy is expected to reach 29 mpg.
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I'm waiting for the order banks to open on the new 2018 Wrangler that will offer this drivetrain option with 48 volt system.
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The heart of the system is an integrated Starter-Generator

Many cars are adopting it -- AUDI, Jeep, Honda, Toyota, Hyundai, just to name a few

Will it change the RV world too?
I read an article talking about the Delphi system. This replaces the usual belt-driven alternator and will likely be the model implemented soonest. It looks like their lithium battery is mounted under-car. But what if outfitters took a mild hybrid van, replaced or supplemented the 48 V lithiums with another few hundred Ah, relocated them indoor, and added a diesel (or gasoline, as appropriate)-fired heater? That could reduce inverter losses and eliminate the lead-acid 12V battery to only the coldest or hottest climates.

A vehicle that potentially starts-stops a lot (city deliveries) such as a Sprinter would benefit the most, but I haven't seen anything about an imminent mild-hybrid version. MB's version as detailed in web hits from a few years ago, has an ISG inline, so it'd need a big redesign to implement.
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