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Old 07-05-2021, 07:45 PM   #1
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I am ready to purchase this new on the market sliding door screen. It is mounted under the sliding door gasket and they can locate door opening upon customer request. I asked about the noisy side fabric and he uses different fabric. Here is reply from the owner:

ďThanks for the interest. Our side material has changed since the install video was filmed..new video coming soon. The new material is a canvas type polyester- Its soft and quiet yet still strong.
Yes I could do the offset on the left vs. right side.Ē





ARB components had quality one but they disappear from their website.
Not much known about this screen https://ripplewearcurtains.com/colle...39506521030840
There is a Canadian company with seems as quality screens but are mounted with Velcro, not really possible with my factory headliner. https://www.rolef.ca/en/

Any thoughts are welcome.
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I have had screens on the sliding doors of both of my Sprinters The first one was a very expensive zip-up, similar to the ones you reference (but snap on, rather than under the gasket). We found it such a hassle that we ended up never using it unless desperate. The zip-up models are fine for the back such as in DavyDD's van, where you do it once a day. But in a frequently-used door, they are more trouble than they are worth, IMO.

Our current one has rigid aluminum C-channel all the way around, with a screen that folds up accordion-style. Here are some pics (not my van):

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This is a thousand times better than our old one.

Unfortunately, it came from Great West and I can find no manufacturers' marks on the unit, so I have no idea where to get one (which I will want to do with our next rig). I do know Great West was installing them for a long time and that it is one of the things that ARV continued with when they spun out of GWV. When GWV was still around, they used to pool their orders with ARV in order to meet some minimum order. Perhaps someone from the ARV world knows where they come from.
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vanupgrades.com has something similar.

Mine came with a sliding screen door that retracts like a window shade. It's not very usable, mostly because the retraction tension is very high so you have to hang on tight while your open and close or it'll suddenly retract. That makes opening when your arms are full impossible. Because one has to open it wide in order to ingress/egress, it lets in lots of bugs.

I replaced the side cargo door (and am replacing the rear door) with homemade screens with magnetic closure similar to the ones that you found, or the vandupgrades ones. The side door one is split in the middle, Velcros into place and stays closed with magnets.

Works much better than the OEM screen. Cost me about $100 in material.
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The back screen on most vans I see can be zippered and rolled down. No one usually comes and goes via the back doors. We just usually leave it in place.

I had the accordion screen on my first ARV with a latch to hold it open. They have since abandoned it evidently since I now have an automatically retractable roll screen that retracts in a side tube and magnets hold it open instead of a latch. If you are not careful you canít see it in place as there are no strings and pleats.
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I now have an automatically retractable roll screen that retracts in a side tube and magnets hold it open instead of a latch.
Nice. Do you know the manufacturer?
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Nice. Do you know the manufacturer?
No. I havenít seen any markings or am not aware of any. ARV probably could tell you.

I was out all day in my remote garage woodworking on a project but mostly waiting for stain to dry. Thatís when I took the time to take photos of my chair options and the screen door. Now Iím home.
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After much research, we bought and installed the Rolef on our Sprinter. And we love it. Very convenient, easy to use and nice looking. Be patient when installing it though. Take your time and make sure it is exactly as you want to it before putting the screws in to permanently secure the Velcro. We have a headliner without much backing, which caused me to use sheet metal screws into door frame across top. But not a big deal. Very secure.
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If rear under-bed storage is isolated from the front, it makes no sense to me to have the rear screen go to the floor. I wrapped mine under the bed, leaving the storage area completely accessible. This also meant I didn’t have to have an opening in the screen.
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we HAD one of those slick framed screen doors in our GWV untill the dogs got excited and ran straight through it. now we have a mgnetic screen door like you see in the adds on tv.. its ok but not as good!
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We have a Bugwall screen and I can recommend them. Only difference is I recommend that you use Gorilla tape instead of clamps for install. Works much better and easier than clamps. I started with the spring clamps and some of them slipped and since I had Gorilla tape I tried it to hold top and it worked like a charm to hold the screen while I placed under door gasket. You also have to be aware that the sliding door bumpers need a little extra slack left in the sides below the window line.
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The back screen on most vans I see can be zippered and rolled down. No one usually comes and goes via the back doors. We just usually leave it in place.

I had the accordion screen on my first ARV with a latch to hold it open. They have since abandoned it evidently since I now have an automatically retractable roll screen that retracts in a side tube and magnets hold it open instead of a latch. If you are not careful you canít see it in place as there are no strings and pleats.
I found the screen door ARV used on our van. You can come and go without using it and it is rolled away. We had screens similar to this before and if you have a dog it can be damaged but on the other hand with the magnetic screens you canít keep your dog inside and it would be a nuisance to have to pass through it even when not needed.

https://www.metroscreenworks.com/ret...creen-doors-1/
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We have a Bugwall screen and I can recommend them. Only difference is I recommend that you use Gorilla tape instead of clamps for install. Works much better and easier than clamps. I started with the spring clamps and some of them slipped and since I had Gorilla tape I tried it to hold top and it worked like a charm to hold the screen while I placed under door gasket. You also have to be aware that the sliding door bumpers need a little extra slack left in the sides below the window line.
Thank you for your info. Did you use double sided tape or you taped the fabric to sheet metal. I have the factory headliner, no access to the sheet metal.
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Unfortunately, it came from Great West and I can find no manufacturers' marks on the unit, so I have no idea where to get one (which I will want to do with our next rig). I do know Great West was installing them for a long time and that it is one of the things that ARV continued with when they spun out of GWV. When GWV was still around, they used to pool their orders with ARV in order to meet some minimum order. Perhaps someone from the ARV world knows where they come from.
I am in the same boat with my Safari Condo. It has an accordion-style sliding screen in an aluminum channel (on three sides). It too has no manufacturers' marks and I did quite a bit of research and couldn't find it. It works well most of the time, but I would love to have the installation instructions. Safari Condo service was of no help with this or identifying the manufacturer. It likes to jump off its track at the most inconvenient time, and I'd like to fix that. Also, it has a very complicated (to me anyway) system of strings that keeps the leading edge vertical and I'd like to adjust that a bit.
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it has a very complicated (to me anyway) system of strings that keeps the leading edge vertical and I'd like to adjust that a bit.
Mine has no strings, so it must not be the same model.

It is surprising how many different models seem to be around. The one that DavyDD showed is obviously intended for residential use, so I a guessing it is probably more robust than the RV-specific ones. I will very likely go with one of those. One of ARVs valuable contributions to the B-van world is seeking out high-quality but obscure components and not being secretive about it.
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