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booster 08-18-2016 03:03 AM

Mycopsycho has his 2015 C190P on ebay
I wonder what put him over the edge to sell it after all the work of the lift and other things. He did have some breakdown stuff, though, like water pump and microwave IIRC.

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AZ ADVenturist 08-18-2016 02:53 PM

Nice rig! To bad about his poor experiences.
How was the Lift done? Did he do an extensive thread on here like you & 'PHOTOG'?
I'm still trying to get lift on our '13 model.
Thnx, Ric.

booster 08-18-2016 03:12 PM

He does have some pretty complete information here:

Interesting in that thread, he was going off to Alaska at the last post he put up. That was in late June, so he would just be getting back. Maybe the lift wasn't enough for what he needed to do up there.

AZ ADVenturist 08-18-2016 11:39 PM

Apologies. I had read his thread on the lift & even commented a couple times. (Memory loss? !) I was impressed by what he described.
Now very curious as to why he wants to sell.
If it's disappointment with the lift or handling I'd like to know, Before I spend
More money on my R/T.
Or maybe none of my business - that's fine.

booster 08-18-2016 11:58 PM

I think we all have learned that the whole lift/ride quality thing is so subjective that it is almost impossible to predict what any individual would like or dislike.

For me, the lift that he did would be fine in the front, I think, but I am not a fan of rearching the rear, and would prefer the adjustability and damping of airbags, but the difference isn't huge. I don't think he did a rear swaybar, which is a big deal for me, but some wouldn't ever notice the difference.

Alaska can be a rough place once you get off the main roads (and sometimes on them), I have been told, so maybe the structure just wasn't hefty enough for what he needs.

I hope he finds what works for him the best, as we all want to be happy with what we have.

Somebody will get a nice van, though, prelifted for clearance:supz:

AZ ADVenturist 08-19-2016 12:45 AM

Agreed x2.
Thought I read that you relocated your gen. to fit the swaybar.
Is there no other way?

booster 08-19-2016 12:52 AM


Originally Posted by AZ ADVenturist (Post 47324)
Agreed x2.
Thought I read that you relocated your gen. to fit the swaybar.
Is there no other way?

That was Campskunk that relocated the genny to the rear a few inches to fit the Hellwig bar. I built one out of circle track bar parts, which are readily available and very versatile. It cleared the genny, when it was there, and now clears the big battery bank and the bigger axle.

Details here:

wincrasher 08-19-2016 01:09 AM

Wow, that is some price he's asking.

AZ ADVenturist 08-19-2016 02:19 AM

Nice DIY on the swaybar. Quite labor intensive.
Way beyond my skill level or any of the back yard mechs. I know.
I'll trying to find a fabrication shop in the Prescott area.

Davydd 08-19-2016 03:18 PM

There is a lot of misconception about Alaska. You don't need lifts on a Class B to travel there. The roads are paved for the most part except if you want to attempt to drive to Prudhoe Bay or take the On Top of the World Highway to Dawson City, Yukon (which we did). There are frost heave conditions and potholes in paved roads especially early in the season but nothing you need lifts for. Most who travel to Alaska will have a plate full to see what they need to see no matter how much time they spend. The idea that you will have to drive off road Jeep like just does not exist that I saw. If there are such places I would think an Alaskan native would have knowledge but not an outside visitor. For that matter anyone thinking they would take a fully loaded rather fragile Class B on a Jeep trail has a lot of misconceptions.

When you do drive to Alaska you meet a lot of RVers and other B owners and there tends to be some comraderie especially on the Alaska Highway. You tend to compare notes, visit each other's RVs, learn a lot and form opinions about what you own in comparison. Maybe it was that simple. You accomplish what you set out to do and then you are ready to move on. My Alaska trip gave me a lot of information of what I wanted in my subsequent Class B. Total independent, uncompromising and transparent off-grid capability was number one when you are on the road for over two months and traveling most days.

Mike 08-19-2016 10:41 PM


Originally Posted by wincrasher (Post 47326)
Wow, that is some price he's asking.

I hope he gets it. Will make the rest of us look inexpensive, if/when we ever decide to sell. Not a lot of used class bees out there that I've seen, and those that do exist, seem priced like they are just that rare. "Spendy" as booster, et al, would say. ;)

Mike 08-19-2016 10:53 PM

Hoping Davydd's comments are an accurate evaluation of typical Alaskan touring. I'd bet they are pretty close to reality. Might be taking a crack at it next week. We'll see how it goes, or more accurately how far we'll go. Long drive, late in the "season" perhaps, but the historical weather data would seem to imply it's not impossible. As I said, we'll see.
In preparation for wherever our next trip takes us, 4 new Bilsteins are on the automotive enhancement menu, to try to improve the ride. I think 14 years, and 300,000 kms on the original shocks isn't too bad, and they owe us nothing. Not looking to lift anything, just a better overall ride and maybe better handling at all speeds. Might even help cure the "curb roll". We'll see if anything else might look interesting, at the truck suspension shop. Maybe a set of air bags, who knows? Any suggestions, anyone? Brand names/models would help. I see Firestone bags mentioned on a lot of threads and at a lot of suspension shops.

AZ ADVenturist 08-19-2016 11:16 PM

Davydd's observations were pretty much spot on according to our experience 4yrs ago. And probably more so now w/ more traffic & worse road conditions.

Davydd 08-20-2016 12:43 AM

What you do see for RV rentals once you are in Alaska are a lot of truck campers rented out of Anchorage. Are truck campers really needed over a Class B or C? Not really but they seem to match the mystique of wild Alaska better. :)

Mike 08-20-2016 02:47 AM

I expect a well maintained and equipped class B van on any road up there, good or bad, will do just as well or better than a top heavy truck camper, or some sort of truck/towable combination. Perhaps not quite as well as a Jeep on the rough stuff, but who wants to live in a Jeep for a month?

Mike 08-20-2016 02:51 AM


Originally Posted by AZ ADVenturist (Post 47343)
Davydd's observations were pretty much spot on according to our experience 4yrs ago. And probably more so now w/ more traffic & worse road conditions.

So, what you're saying is, even he gets it right once in a while? :shock:

only joking ;)

AZ ADVenturist 08-20-2016 03:07 AM

Yup! But we really got of topic of value vs. Cost of our class "Bs".

booster 09-04-2016 01:07 PM

He didn't get it sold on ebay, but it did sell on Roadtrek International site.

The price was reduced a bit to $83K or best offer, but they don't list the final sale price there.

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