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StreaminGuy

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New to the forum, just purchased 2012 Airstream Avenue Suite based on 2010 Chevy Express 3500.
-looking to do some suspension upgrades
-also to upgrade shocks

Thanks, G
 
I have the same chassis, except it’s a 2012. Replaced the OEM shocks with Bilsteins front and rear. Replaced the rubber bump stops with SumoSprings front and rear. The rear OEM bump stops are a joke, and literally weren’t doing anything. And one of the front OEM bump stops was disintegrating. The overall ride was much improved after doing these upgrades.
 
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I have the same chassis, except it’s a 2012. Replaced the OEM shocks with Bilsteins front and rear. Replaced the rubber bump stops with SumoSprings front and rear. The rear OEM bump stops are a joke, and literally weren’t doing anything. And one of the front OEM bump stops was disintegrating. The overall ride was much improved after doing these upgrades.
New to the forum, just purchased 2012 Airstream Avenue Suite based on 2010 Chevy Express 3500.
-looking to do some suspension upgrades
-also to upgrade shocks

Thanks, G
StreaminGuy, what did you end up doing?

Like Tom, I just replaced all four shocks with Bilsteins and very happy. I have not yet looked at the bump stops but may consider those. I'd really love to install a rear swaybar but not sure one will fit with the propane tank at the rear of the axle.
 
StreaminGuy, what did you end up doing?

Like Tom, I just replaced all four shocks with Bilsteins and very happy. I have not yet looked at the bump stops but may consider those. I'd really love to install a rear swaybar but not sure one will fit with the propane tank at the rear of the axle.
Is the propane tank up close to the axle or, if you have one, is the generator? The tank at the far rear is what we see most, but don't see many Airstreams here. You will need maybe 3" for the the Hellwig rear bar for a Chevy from the differential rear cover to whatever is in the way.
 
StreaminGuy, what did you end up doing?

Like Tom, I just replaced all four shocks with Bilsteins and very happy. I have not yet looked at the bump stops but may consider those. I'd really love to install a rear swaybar but not sure one will fit with the propane tank at the rear of the axle.
Mr. Merk, I bought the Koni FSD's and the Sumo springs but have not installed either yet. My wife and I both have had some medical issues over the past year or so we have been working thru. Our Airstream Suite is low mile and in near perfect condition and actually drives/rides pretty good...as this is the 5th Class B we've had and the 4th Airstream Class B. I personally am not a big fan of Bilstein's based on installed them on two other Class B's and having them on several performance cars over the years. I find them harsh and they get harsher with age. I've had and still have Koni's on several things...and have found them to be very compliant yet firm...and the FSD's are designed for the ride quality specifically when hitting bumps. I do all the work on things myself and will get around to installing them soon. I have numerous classic cars, drive them A LOT and keep busy on maintenance/upkeep and upgrades on them. I'm currently more interested in doing some upgrades on my latest classic car purchase vs changing decent suspension already on the Airstream Suite for even better suspension....but I do need to get it done. Let us know what you do and how satisfied you are. I can tell you we had all the rattles found and fixed on two of our previous Airstream Class B's...until I installed those Bilstein's and they were so stiff/harsh, I could not fix all the rattles as that thing was being hammered. This is not an opinion, it was my personal experience. The Koni's are the only choice for me. I have a friend that installed Koni's on a '65 Mustang fastback...I've driven a bunch of Mustangs from that era...that car felt like a luxury car, ride wise, yet handled amazingly.
good luck, G
 

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I’ve run Bilsteins on my GMC truck for years, but I found them way too harsh on the rear. With my 2-inch lowering shackles, the back end would skip all over the road unless I was towing or hauling a heavy load. I eventually swapped the rear shocks for those intended for a later-model Yukon, which made the ride much more compliant and improved tire contact significantly.

Your Avenue looks absolutely immaculate! I think you might be the only other Avenue owner currently active on the forum.

My wife had been bugging me for years to get a camper van. With 20 years of automotive service experience—13 at a GM dealership and 4 at a Mercedes Sprinter shop—I knew exactly what I wanted to avoid, and my experiences with Sprinters made me look elsewhere. Once I learned about the Airstream Avenue, I was dead set on finding one.

I almost bought one in Albuquerque, but the paint was baked from the sun. I ended up jumping on our silver 2011 in Boise the second I saw it pop up on Facebook Marketplace. I’m definitely jealous of your "Suite" model; our lounge is nice and open, but the bed is just a few inches too short for me to sleep comfortably. Let me know how that Koni install goes once you find the time!
 
It is always interesting to get the opinions on different shocks and the ride quality and handling.

I this case, we have Bilsteins and find they give good ride quality and superb handling in our 4200# front and 5200# rear on our 07 C190P. Would the rear in particular be too harsh in an empty van? Probably.

Comparisons just between brands is difficult as many brands supply different shock styles within their product line for the same vehicle. The high damping ones would be harsher and firmer, the less damping would be less harsh and smoother. I have messed with cars, hotrods, muscle cars, classics, etc for 60 years and found the above to be true for all of them, and among the vehicles that have only one style available for any particular vehicle and user you get a variation of likes and dislikes. The high end brands like Koni and Bistein, have been around for a long time and I have used them and most other brands numerous times for different uses. Now for heavy stuff and offroad, Fox is also in on it and they do have a possible advantage in that they build the shocks to order for the weight and vehicle type (tall, consistent weight, whatever) for the application. On my 96 Buick Roadmaster wagon that weighs 5K#, Bilstein makes two versions, one is a very compromise of ride and handling and the other stiff and suited to performance driving. I use the softer ones and they are good even towing 3K with it. They are also true dual valving that they can tune to the use individually, as I understand it. They should be able to get the best of both worlds to fit an individuals taste. They also are very expensive to buy.

On the forum, Bilsteins are the most common and highly rated, I think, by quite a bit, but is it momentum, cost, lucky matching to vans, or something else, I have no idea.

The intangible in the Chevies is the ride height any given van is at has a major influence on the ride quality and how it reacts to a shock change.

In the front, a class b with often be very close to sitting on or hitting the bump stop all the time or on small and medium bumps. This will give a very different spring rate right in the middle of a bump and cause a lurch back up. In the rear, especially 210s are often sitting on the overload leafs of the rear springs so can be very stiff regardless of shocks used. 190s sit a bit off and you can often hear and feel the overload contacting the main spring very hard on medium to big bumps. This is, I think, why many say their lift makes the van ride and handle better as it puts the suspension in a place where it should be.

Bottom line for me is that handling and ride quality are so personal of a taste that recommendations will be all over the map, I think. Fast, responsive steering response that requires very small steering inputs (what I have tuned our suspension for) would be called twitchy be some people, but so would a BMW sport car compared to big old passenger car. It is all in what you prefer and none is right or wrong.
 

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