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Old 09-02-2015, 07:29 PM   #41
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Perdi,
I am in the same boat... no hurry. I also talked with Lichtsinn a few months back, but their pricing did not seem that competitive, and I was ready to buy at that moment. Now that I have seen the features on the newer models, I have decided to sit back and collect pennies awhile longer...
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Old 09-03-2015, 12:20 AM   #42
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Maybe they don't have the best prices if you keep on looking and waiting for the better deal, but it's nice to be young too ��. Two selling points for me were the almost zero miles on my new vehicle, and planning a road trip anyways to Iowa and a side trip to Forest City isn't a big deal. Perdi, the $3k added for diesel seems like a good deal. I keep going back and forth, gas or diesel, they both have their advantages. It would be nice to get more real world mpg for diesel.
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like the idea of going an extra hundred miles between fillups with a diesel. I hate the idea of trying to run the A/C off a 6 L lpg tank in summer in the texas or arizona.
So I am opting for the gas version. Any thoughts?
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Have 'em put in a diesel generator for you. It will cost extra and they may tell you to take a hike, but it doesn't hurt to ask.
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Old 09-03-2015, 01:53 AM   #45
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path of least resistance - go with the gas vrsion
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Another advantage with gas is being able to idle for heat and cold because of no EGR system but boy the economy numbers on the diesel Promaster's are very tempting. I'll bet 23-25 mpg will not be unheard of.
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Bear in mind that you take a 500 lb hit on payload if you go with the diesel, coupled with the already mentioned lp generator and puny lp tank.

You don't get any additional towing capacity either.

Getting 25 mpg would be awesome though, if you can really get that much. With current prices on par with gasoline, you could hope to recoup some of that extra cost. If (or when) it shoots back up, then it may be near impossible to do so.
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Another advantage with gas is being able to idle for heat and cold because of no EGR system but boy the economy numbers on the diesel Promaster's are very tempting. I'll bet 23-25 mpg will not be unheard of.
Is there a manufacturer's limit on extended idling for the Promaster diesel? There is a current discussion on this topic over at Sprinter Source. Contrary to Internet wisdom, nobody has ever produced a written official statement from MB on this topic for the Sprinter--one way or the other. It may very well be an issue, but there is a lot less evidence on this topic than the Net would lead one to believe.
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Old 09-03-2015, 02:17 PM   #49
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like the idea of going an extra hundred miles between fillups with a diesel.
Have you run the $ on the difference? FitRV has a calculator that will give you the breakeven mileage. Just enter fuel and DEF prices, MPG figures and extra cost of the diesel engine. Easy to use and worth checking.
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Good luck finding a diesel mechanic or even someone to change the oil
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Good luck finding a diesel mechanic or even someone to change the oil
Yes, maybe if you are talking about the of number gas vs diesel mechanics, in general.

But if you are talking about gas Promaster vs diesel Promaster, (for instance while still under warranty), I assume all RAM Truck dealers deal with both gas and diesel.
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It sounds like there are quite a few compromises to be taken into account when choosing diesel over gas for improved mileage and fuel costs. Also, there is the Adblue tank and the quirky to me, manumatic transmission. Nothing that can't be gotten used to as a new routine. I have the same gas engine in my Jeep for 4 years with no issues, so I may just stay gas. Not all gas stations sell diesel so it doesn't help to squeeze a tank of diesel just for one less stop.
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So this is where I'm at. I secured financing from good Sam without using the dealer.
The dealer is saying that he wants to charge $500 to secure a lien. Does anyone know what he' talking about?
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Good luck finding a diesel mechanic or even someone to change the oil

Oil changes on the diesel engine is a piece of cake. Ali 3 of the European vans are this way. Except that the Sprinter takes a special European oil spec, and about 3-4 more quarts of it
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Oil changes on the diesel engine is a piece of cake. Ali 3 of the European vans are this way. Except that the Sprinter takes a special European oil spec, and about 3-4 more quarts of it
I totally agree with you. Try to convince every mechanic that gives me deer caught in a headlamp look when they realize that my vw Passat is a diesel.
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So this is where I'm at. I secured financing from good Sam without using the dealer.
The dealer is saying that he wants to charge $500 to secure a lien. Does anyone know what he' talking about?

Yeah, here's trying to rip you off since he's not getting the financing.
Be sure to shop around for your financing. GS had always between one of the higher interest rates we've checked into
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That's what I figured.
Good Sam said 3.97 for 10 years.
I hope to be done with payments in 2-3 years.
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Perdi, Alliant Credit Union in Chicago is our "go to" auto, RV finance place....
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Ty I'll put in an app
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Credit unions were generally the best source for low interest loans. That seemed to be the case in all the instances I checked. Even amongst credit unions they could be different. I belonged to two for the sole purpose of getting loans. Savings suck no matter where you put money. I keep a tiny balance just to maintain memberships.
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