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Old 12-16-2013, 01:02 AM   #1
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Well the Travatos are finally going out to dealers now. It will be interesting to see all the feelings and opinions of the first owners and lookers.
I did notice in the first pics from one at an actual dealer, that there seemed to be some minor changes to some of the exterior fittings from the ones first shown 3 or so months ago
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Old 12-16-2013, 04:13 PM   #2
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I noticed the same thing, especially the model shown on the YouTube video from Colonial Itasca.
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Old 12-17-2013, 02:34 AM   #3
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The more I see the more I like.I had a bit of an epiphany regards the Travato..The bed gives this rig a lot of versatility.Two Small kids could sleep under the bed with a pad and a sleeping bag.A lot of extra stuff(fresh water,food,clothing etc...) can be stored under the bed.I can hardly wait to see one in person.
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..........................the YouTube video from Colonial Itasca.
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The more I see the more I like.I had a bit of an epiphany regards the Travato..The bed gives this rig a lot of versatility.Two Small kids could sleep under the bed with a pad and a sleeping bag.A lot of extra stuff(fresh water,food,clothing etc...) can be stored under the bed.I can hardly wait to see one in person.
Which is it under the drop down bed? A place to sleep or a place to store stuff?

There is already a bed for kids in front.

What's confusing about this unit is there is very little storage inside other than that floor where the bed drops down. I'm to take it that space becomes a hodgepodge of boxes and I would guess unless one is attempting to travel with bikes that the bed would remain made up because who would want to step amongst the hodgepodge to go back and lower the bed every night and gain nothing for putting it up but the ability to rummage through your storage like in an attic?

There are some considerations for multi-use of the B for other reasons than travel. It may be the only B you can use to go pick up anything at a furniture store. But the idea of bikes inside conflicts with other storage and then they have to be removed from the B overnight. That begs being put on a hitch receiver in the first place.
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Old 12-17-2013, 07:14 PM   #6
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"Which is it under the drop down bed? A place to sleep or a place to store stuff? " Exactly.Which is it? The point is; the consumer may make it what they wish.No current mass produced Class B sold in America is as versatile.None!Only custom builders like Sportsmobile can make a similar vehicle and for a much more hefty price tag.The drive train is what bothers me.I will definitely wait and see.I would also wait for the diesel version as it should have better MPG and a longer warranty (5 years).
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I think you misunderstand me. If you haul a couple of kids along how are you going to use the Travato for kids sleeping there under the bed and store what you need to take along if that space under the bed has to be utilized to store things. Kind of moot in a way to have even made that suggestion since there is a second kid bed available with the second seat. We've hauled grandkids on thousand mile long trips in our much bigger Sprinter. We resorted to carrying a tent along with sleeping bags and of course extra clothes in duffel bags and TOYS. Do you realize how much you have to haul to keep a 4 year old happy? The bathroom became a storage room. That Travato has so little storage and small tanks that I would never attempt what we did with a Travato. Short distance weekend trips to go from home to a campground? Fine. It is better than an SUV for sure.
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You do have a point about the under the bed storage. Unless there is some type of cargo net, I don't see anything that prevents stuff slid under the bed from flying forward come even a moderate stop. Of course, that can be addressed a number of ways, but is definitely an issue. If I were going on longer trips, and vehicle storage were not such a premium for me (at best I have a parking space in a driveway), I'd definitely go for a longer rig. I am going to see about addressing the storage issue by a hitch mounted cargo carrier, but at 350 pounds tops, that carrier won't be carrying much, especially if it is one that swings out of the way, so a cargo carrier isn't going to completely mitigate the lack of storage.

As for the drivetrain, normally I'm leery of a "version 1.0" offering, but I think there should be no surprises with this. The drivetrain with the gremlins will be the diesel engine and its AMT, and that is still being thrashed out.

I do think this won't be Winnebago's final offering. With all the market players jumping in, I can see better floorplans in a year or two that have more storage, especially for 1000+ mile trips with kids.
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For extended touring for a couple the Travato is going to have two major debits no matter how clever the designs. The first of course is its overall size which puts it closer to the 144" wheelbase RT Agile and P-W Ascent limitations compared to the 170" wheelbase Sprinters. The 2-3" extra width gives it a little more design flexibility over the 144" wheelbase Sprinters. Secondly, that lower floor, because of no need for a drive train with front wheel drive, limits tank capacities.

The wild card is the Ford Transit. I don't know if it will compete well enough for the high end market against the Sprinter as it seems more aligned with the T1N older Sprinter in size. I suspect it will aim more toward the ProMaster but will probably settle in between the ProMaster and Sprinter in capability and price points. For people who like and liked the old T1N Sprinter body it could be popular.
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Ok. Let me try to make point of little tykes sleeping under the bed moot. Lets say you are a younger couple and you want to stay up late,watch a movie,have some grownup time or up early and have a coffee together but you can 't because the kids are there. Another option would be under the bed for little ones. Am I going to have to spell it all out. Think outside the box peoples. This van is quite obviously targeting younger more active buyers. Not retired full timers ,but I bet I could make it work with my wife fulltime.
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