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Old 02-10-2024, 06:58 PM   #1
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I have a 2003 Winnebago 21 B. And the tires are uncommon sizes both front and back and no one in the USA have them listed. Anyone know where to find them?
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Might help if you tell us the tire size.

Maybe try these.

https://www.tiremart.com/shop?search_query=215%2F65R16

https://www.tiremart.com/shop?search_query=195%2F65R16
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Old 02-10-2024, 08:12 PM   #3
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It's not likely that model uses some exotic tire size. Check the owner's manual.
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https://www.winnebago.com/Files/File...GO/3wv221b.pdf


“ no one in the USA have them listed” ??????

These tires are not that all uncommon.

195/65 R16 C 104/102R (FRONT TIRE)
215/65 R16 C 109/107R (REAR TIRE)

Three minutes of research

https://www.discounttire.com/tires/a...ler-asc&page=0

https://www.discounttire.com/buy-tir...830-p/p/118633
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I have a 2003 Winnebago 21 B. And the tires are uncommon sizes both front and back and no one in the USA have them listed. Anyone know where to find them?
I had the same problem with my 2003 Rialta. I found my tires at priority.com
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I had no problem finding those quickly. But the manual requires 109 load limit and I can only find 104. Maybe others are using 104 anyway.
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104 rating is the front; 109 is the rating for the rear. Your initial post said you couldn’t find any tires. Are you now saying you can? Both front and rear tires have a load range of “C”. Load index is a more precise method of measurement than load range which focuses mostly on construction. The load index is what you are referring to. The 104 = 1984lbs per tire. The 109= 2271lb per tire. X 2 would be about 600lbs capacity you’d be giving up with 104 rated tires (load index) in the rear.

Not to be crass or anything. Have you been to a tire shop or just doing this online? Some one in person would be much more helpful.
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104 rating is the front; 109 is the rating for the rear. Your initial post said you couldn’t find any tires. Are you now saying you can? Both front and rear tires have a load range of “C”. Load index is a more precise method of measurement than load range which focuses mostly on construction. The load index is what you are referring to. The 104 = 1984lbs per tire. The 109= 2271lb per tire. X 2 would be about 600lbs capacity you’d be giving up with 104 rated tires (load index) in the rear.

Not to be crass or anything. Have you been to a tire shop or just doing this online? Some one in person would be much more helpful.

Don't want to stir this up anymore than it already is, but there is a major error here based on what was found on the forum a while ago.

You have to be very careful with anything to do with a "C" rating on tires, especially if they have anything to do with Europe.

A "C" rating Europe commonly refers to a Commercial Tire rating, not a load range C tire like it might in the US. It is highly likely that the tires in question fall in the Commercial Tire category as VW is European.

It would be interesting to see just what the user manual states and how it is written as that might help clear it up. Perhaps a scan or a phone pic posted by the OP.

I doubt the OP would have asked if he had any idea of how to get what he needed, and that is why this forum exists to a large extent.

My personal opinion is the load range letter system is badly out of date and probably should be retired as it references "how many ply" specs regardless of how many plies the tires really have. Just some mystical conversion to how many pounds of load capacity. The load index numbers are much better and tightly specified.
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https://www.winnebago.com/Files/File...GO/3wv221b.pdf


ď no one in the USA have them listedĒ ??????

These tires are not that all uncommon.

195/65 R16 C 104/102R (FRONT TIRE)
215/65 R16 C 109/107R (REAR TIRE)

Three minutes of research

https://www.discounttire.com/tires/a...ler-asc&page=0

https://www.discounttire.com/buy-tir...830-p/p/118633

The highest load index on these links I found there was 102 with the rest under 100???
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There does appear to be a Rialta Facebook group. It is private so can't see what is on there.


Might be a good idea to sign up and see what they say as they should know, if anybody does, where to get tires.


https://www.facebook.com/groups/8690...ussion/preview
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A possible solution, if you are willing to go the 15" wheels and a tiny bit less capacity at 106LI, could be these tires and wheels. The rims are wide enough and have the correct bolt pattern and are shown for the Eurovan in your year. They don't mention offset but the application to Eurovan would probably mean it is OK and around 50mm. Same with the center hole diameter. They would be 1" bigger diameter than stock it appears from the specs I could find.


Going to the same size front and rear should not be a an issue, I think.


https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...omCompare1=yes


https://www.finishlinewheels.com/pro...-steel-oem-rim


Hopefully the OP will come back and update where they are at on this thread, although sometimes they don't come back.
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