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Old 04-25-2018, 05:36 AM   #1
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Question 2019 22' Ford Transit vs 2019 24' Sprinter

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We were hoping that the gas 2019 Sprinter would be available in 4x4... but some new info indicates that the USA gas Sprinter 2019 may be 2WD only.



I really dont want Diesel for a number of reasons.....

My question is - if we decide to forgo the 4x4.... then we might look at the 2019 22' Transit with the bigger engine. I hear it is pretty nice engine.

I think 22' is the longest we can get in a Transit....

How does the 22' Transit compare, overall, to the 24' Sprinter?

We want as long and as big as possible as we want a queen-ish bed in the rear, with a fold up single bed cot above it, plus bathroom, plus kitchen stuff, etc. and a 3rd (captains) chair for our child.



thanks for any and all thoughts.

oh and from what I could understand from the Quigley website - they no longer convert vans other than vans they are selling as new. Unless I misunderstood...

4x4 Vans : Quigley Motor Company, Inc. > Quigley Products > Quigley 4x4 Ford Transit Vans > Convert Used Van

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Old 04-25-2018, 06:16 PM   #2
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Well it's smaller and lighter of course. If you get a Transit, you really have 2 choices in the mainstream manufacturers - the Winnebago Paseo or the Coachmen Crossfit. People report liking the floorplan and cabinet quality in the Crossfit, but it doesn't have the turbo engine. The Paseo has complaints about the short beds and the quirky cabinets, but raves about the engine. But you'll have to buy one off the lot, as WGO stopped taking orders for them (rumoured discontinued).

Your other option is a custom, like Sportsmobile. Besides the long wait time, you have the more spartan design aesthetic (some people like). It's kinda apples and oranges though if you comparing these to WGO & Coachmen.

If you want a large van though, it's hard to beat a Sprinter. That extra 2 feet doesn't sound like much, but it is a huge amount of extra space. Have you looked at the Era models from WGO? The A model is a pretty nice van. The Coachmen Galleria is also a tremendous value. I haven't heard of any availability issues with either - you probably can find plenty to choose from sitting on dealer lots.
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The Crossfit has been offering the 3.5L ecoboost engine since the beginning of the year.

Yay to 400 lb-ft of torque.
But prayers to the universal joint.
(Ford has a special name for their rubber thingy, I don't remember the term).
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thanks for the good info.

to clarify - we'd likely go SMB as we need sleeping for 3, and seats (including sholder seatbelt) for three.

a very nice person on another forum came up with this in the SMB custom builder..... in the 22' Transit.

needs FlarePods and a transverse Queen.... then the single fold up bunk on the passenger side - running front to back

SMB west can do all this, i believe. (not sure who would install the FlarePods. )

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It has yet to be announced Officially, but Litchsinn RV in Indiana, one of the largest volume WGO Dealers, is NO LONGER accepting Orders on new Paseos. Being discontinued due to slow sales. It will open up Capacity for the Revel, which has a wait list approaching a year. We’ll see....
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FWIIW - I just read:

The 2019 Transit is expected to receive the turbocharged 3.5-liter V6 paired with the 10-speed automatic transmission, which will give the large cargo hauler better fuel economy and better performance.

The turbo V6 won’t be the only engine option – expect a less powerful V6 and five-cylinder diesel to carry over into the new model year.
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My take would be to go for the Ford, if only for ease of access to service (so many more Ford shops around than Mercedes). Ford maint costs will also be lower. I also don't have warm fuzzies about MB reliability for gas engines, tho' maybe they're better for commercial vehicles ?
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I chose ford and I'm happy with the choice. But it's only 22 ft and the extra 2 ft you can get with a Sprinter amounts to a huge increase in interior space - I wouldn't discount what that will get you when you are trying to fit more than two people in a van.
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FWIIW - I just read:

The 2019 Transit is expected to receive the turbocharged 3.5-liter V6 paired with the 10-speed automatic transmission, which will give the large cargo hauler better fuel economy and better performance.

The turbo V6 won’t be the only engine option – expect a less powerful V6 and five-cylinder diesel to carry over into the new model year.
It will be interesting to see what output/boost they run with the Ecoboost. In the past, it has been pretty common for the vans to have less power than the corresponding engine pickups due to induction and exhaust packing limitations, and the ability to get the extra heat out of the engine and engine compartment.
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Other than the guibo (funky rubber U-joint which is under warranty), I prefer the Transit, when comparing gassers to gassers. The EB V6 actually can make the van somewhat fun to drive.
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