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Old 01-30-2017, 06:29 PM   #21
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As a former owner of an Airstream Interstate; a current owner of a GWV Legend (identical floorpan as ARV); and being 6'3" tall, I can attest from personal experience that the A/C plenum in the forward position is a HUGE issue, and also that moving it back to over the bed makes it a total NON-issue.
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Old 01-30-2017, 07:49 PM   #22
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I don't think it has been mentioned in this thread yet but the vans from Advanced RV probably are all over $220,000. They are awesome vehicles but they probably cost twice as much (if not more than this) compared to most other Class B's. Not sure if the original poster and new member even realized this.
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I don't think it has been mentioned in this thread yet but the vans from Advanced RV probably are all over $220,000. They are awesome vehicles but they probably cost twice as much (if not more than this) compared to most other Class B's. Not sure if the original poster and new member even realized this.
Yes. Which is a very good reason to keep an eye out for an NOS or lightly used GWV Legend. ARV started out as a near-exact clone of the Legend, and so they are basically identical except for higher end finishes and systems, and of course the significant customization that ARV is willing to do. Moreover, a lot of the advanced systems (large inverter, 2nd engine alternator, etc) are relatively easy to retrofit into the Legend, due to ARV's generous policy of sharing technical details of their builds.

One might want to be a little cautious about the very last US-built GWV rigs, since there may have been quality issues in that period (I really don't know this, though). Other than that, though, a late model Legend is a great choice--especially if your have DIY improvements in mind.
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Old 01-30-2017, 09:11 PM   #24
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I don't think it has been mentioned in this thread yet but the vans from Advanced RV probably are all over $220,000. They are awesome vehicles but they probably cost twice as much (if not more than this) compared to most other Class B's. Not sure if the original poster and new member even realized this.
Oh yeah. Figured that out early on. Too much$$ for us. Especially being new to a class b. I would love to find a used GW. Only ones I see right now are in Florida.
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I'm aware of the costs of new Advanced RV rigs. That's why I'm looking into the PleasureWay, as well. I'm also looking into a B+. The problem is that the choices are limited.

Over the past two or three years, I've driven several salespeople and show reps crazy with my questions and my fiddling around in their RVs. They tell me, "European design!" and I respond with looking at the location of the AC.

Renting an RV can be very expensive per day, and I'd rather save the $ for a down payment. Since I'm in no rush to buy, renting one is at the bottom of my list.

P.S. I also live in Sonoma County.
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I'm 6'3" in a Travato G with no problems. Very happy. And the K model has an even longer bed..
The more I look at the layout and the price point the Travato G is looking more attractive, not to get too personal here, but are two of you using the rear bed and if so do you find it a bit narrow?
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I'm 6'3" in a Travato G with no problems. Very happy. And the K model has an even longer bed..
The bed on the 59G is 46" by 77" but it's not rectangular. The twin beds that come with the 59K are longer only on one side. One bed is 30" by 74" and the other is 30" by 80". If both people are tall, one may have to stay curled up to sleep, especially because there's a counter that extends over the foot of the shorter bed.

It's not just your height. Your postures, your shoes, how you and your partner sleep, and the length of your torsos vs the length of your legs all affect how an RV fits a couple. You two have to try them yourselves.
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The more I look at the layout and the price point the Travato G is looking more attractive, not to get too personal here, but are two of you using the rear bed and if so do you find it a bit narrow?
The Fit RV reviews of the Travato show some detailed views of the bed system. "A bit narrow" seems like a vast understatement for me. You have to be pretty good friends to sleep in a 46" bed. You also have to be a pretty flexible person to just get into the bed (and out of it in the middle of the night to use the bathroom).

https://www.thefitrv.com/rv-reviews/...tour-de-lance/

https://www.thefitrv.com/rv-reviews/...o-travato-59g/

It is also easy to mark out the 46" x 77" dimensions on your living room floor with some boards or boxes and just try laying in the space. It is pretty revealing. You quickly learn with Class B's that it is an exercise in priorities and compromises.
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The Fit RV reviews of the Travato show some detailed views of the bed system. "A bit narrow" seems like a vast understatement for me. You have to be pretty good friends to sleep in a 46" bed. You also have to be a pretty flexible person to just get into the bed (and out of it in the middle of the night to use the bathroom).

https://www.thefitrv.com/rv-reviews/...tour-de-lance/

https://www.thefitrv.com/rv-reviews/...o-travato-59g/

It is also easy to mark out the 46" x 77" dimensions on your living room floor with some boards or boxes and just try laying in the space. It is pretty revealing. You quickly learn with Class B's that it is an exercise in priorities and compromises.
Agreed, I posted that then pulled out the tape and realized that we couldn't do it. A couple of weeks in Britain on vacation maybe, but even then we search for king beds. We're Cal King folks and with a small pup that likes to sleep with us (between us) it would never work... oh well, back to the search
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Where's that extra 200K when you need it
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