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Old 05-14-2018, 12:50 AM   #1
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Default Creampuff Roadtreks are out there if you look...

OK, how many of you have actually looked for a 5 to 6 years old Roadtrek as opposed to purchasing a brand new coach??

Apparently, used low mileage Roadtrek's are not easy to find unless you know where to look... We got lucky getting this one from the original owners.

You can save a lot of money on initial depreciation and get a nicer rig... vs. buying new in my opinion.

We found our 2012 Roadtrek Adventurous last May 2017 at a dealer while considering a Winnebago Navion. The original owners traded it in to purchase a Navion.... and we fell in love with this rig for the price and the way it drives.

We've had a few issues... mostly with the Mercedes.. they replaced the entire emissions system under warranty...the warranty for this is 8 years or 80,000 miles.. yes, we have the DEF Bluetec system...

Here's what I got see link below.....it's very nice, I think, for $79,000 before taxes, etc. This all adds up fast.

New tires and batteries
Zamp Solar system and controller
Kenwood DNX 893S, front and rear cameras
Rear proximity sensors
Replaced propane sensor because it timed out..
Replaced old and cracked dump hose... probably due to climate conditions...

Some other service items at Mercedes. .. glow plugs went our prematurely, and we had an issue with the emissions system....

Thankfully, Mercedes Benz replaced the entire emissions system on our 2011 under WARRANTY.... that's right, it's 8 years or 80,000 miles.

We now have brand new updated NOX sensors, catalytic converter and a whole lot of other stuff.... saved us $4,000

This week we're getting a complete suspension upgrade.. new KONI FSD shocks, trac bar and anti-sway bar.

The upgrade for the suspension is $3,100... only $780 is labor, rest parts...
You know, when you're out on the road... being safe is number 1.

A couple of people said "air suspension" , BUT, I think that's way overkill for a Class B...

An estimate total investment of $107,000 ...

As a comparison, I looked at the 2017 RS Adventurous ... had about 3,000 miles ... they wanted $155,000...

Funny how the 2017 model was very similarly equipped with solar, etc. and it was a 2016 Mercedes Sprinter... everyone does this, uses last year's model and does the conversion.

So, for having 23,000 miles more on the 2012 than the brand new one... we saved a lot of cash...

Pics and details at this link;

https://www.conejowholesaleauto.com/...beffb59e9eb708

We've already taken the rig across the USA once...and plan more trips.....I see so many people with big Class A's and other larger rigs that sit around and never go anywhere... I didn't want to be that person...... purchased it with 26,000 miles... now has 41,000....

Diesels are longer term engines... just getting started... my Mercedes dealership said it's not even broken in yet...

Overall, I think Roadtrek has pretty decent quality... and they have been accelerating the pace recently.. hopefully they don't tarnish their reputation with lower quality products... the Sunlight V1 series by Erwin Hymer seems pretty bare bones.

My very reputable RV shop advised me that we need new shocks due to the extra heavy load that the RS carries with the dual wheels.... and the original shocks (Sachs) are not really meant for the constant weight of the RV...

We had some issues on our cross country trip with handling in winds and over uneven surfaces... Our last trip to the Central Coast just cinched it for me... I'm glad I'm doing the upgrade on the suspension.

Give the folks at Super Steer a call if you have any concerns with your handling, they're in Grants Pass, Oregon... they're helping me with the solution for my suspension. They can be reached at 888-266-8246... talk with Dave.

The folks at Super Steer told me a number of clients who purchase a "brand new" Class B still have the upgrade done on the suspension from Day 1.

Here's another website if you're looking for a used model...good luck.

Roadtreks for Sale - Road Trek International

Would welcome your input... we're planning on keeping this rig for another 5 to 7 years at least.... long term maintenance is the only thing that has me concerned overall..
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Cream-puff other brands are out there as well, often being sold by flippers.

Ours was a 7-year-old Airstream Interstate with about $25,000 miles when we bought it. We proceeded to spend three years upgrading its systems. If someone wants to put in the sweat equity, they can buy lightly used and develop for themselves a fully-outfitted off-grid rig that includes lithium and solar and a whole lot of other stuff for $45,000 - $75,000 price range, depending on how high-end they want their components to be.

Depending on the brand chosen, it doesn't have to include Grandma styling, either. Everyone is entitled to their own specific taste, but I just could not bear to look at that RT shown in the link. If I'm going to spend all that money and time on developing a rig, I want something that is pleasing to my eye as well as highly functional.
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Cream-puff other brands are out there as well, often being sold by flippers.

Ours was a 7-year-old Airstream Interstate with about $25,000 miles when we bought it. We proceeded to spend three years upgrading its systems. If someone wants to put in the sweat equity, they can buy lightly used and develop for themselves a fully-outfitted off-grid rig that includes lithium and solar and a whole lot of other stuff for $45,000 - $75,000 price range, depending on how high-end they want their components to be.

Depending on the brand chosen, it doesn't have to include Grandma styling, either. Everyone is entitled to their own specific taste, but I just could not bear to look at that RT shown in the link. If I'm going to spend all that money and time on developing a rig, I want something that is pleasing to my eye as well as highly functional.
YES, I suppose there's minimalist vans out there with hard sufaces and garish colors as well???

When you said $25,000 miles I wasn't sure if meant $25,000 or 25,000 miles....

Maybe you are comfortable doing all this work yourself...I'm not...
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LOL that's what happens when I try to type too early in the morning.

I WISH it had been $25,000. Far from it.
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Looks like you got a really good deal!

Here's a picture for anybody who might want to see it just quickly:


Your interior seems really spacious with tons of storage. I like it!

I also really like the staging they did. Sounds silly (and it is) but I like it when they treat these vans like a home instead of just a regular old vehicle.

We also opted for a used vehicle that we fully knew we would upgrade. I go into details of why we chose this option in this post.

BTW, don't worry about what others think about your van. There's so many different styles and not everybody is the same. The important thing is that you enjoy it!
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Looks like you got a really good deal!

Here's a picture for anybody who might want to see it just quickly:


Your interior seems really spacious with tons of storage. I like it!

I also really like the staging they did. Sounds silly (and it is) but I like it when they treat these vans like a home instead of just a regular old vehicle.

We also opted for a used vehicle that we fully knew we would upgrade. I go into details of why we chose this option in this post.

BTW, don't worry about what others think about your van. There's so many different styles and not everybody is the same. The important thing is that you enjoy it!
Matt,

UNDERSTOOD.. I'm not worried about what other people think about my RS... in fact, most people think it's pretty nice.. as I do.

Nice to always hear someone validate that we got a decent deal.... so, thank you for your comment...

You're absolutely correct .... the most important thing about using your rig is to enjoy it... no matter what the color, style, make or model... and be sure you're safe on the road...

This is my first RV.. I chose the Class B for the smaller foot print and better fuel efficiency. We found out about Roadtrek through a friend who had one... otherwise, I might not have heard about them....

We were originally looking at a Winnebago Navion and saw this trade at the local dealership... I test drove the Navion and Fuse ( both Class C's) and really liked this Roadtrek a lot more... the larger rigs felt like I was on a "boat".

Funny, your comment about lots of storage.... that's the ONE thing about a Class B.. that you have to get used to... there's NOT as much space as the Class C.... ( a lot of hype about a B plus... there's no such thing as B plus)... marketing BS...

My answer to the space problem is simple... take less stuff with you.. you're not at home.. leave all that extra stuff at home and just take the essentials with you. We managed to take it on a three month trip... with a stop for a few weeks... across country.. worked fine.

You'll notice in the photo link... we have the optional armoire cabinets..for storage up front... they can be removed and we can put in the two seats for four seats up front... the cabinets give us more organization... handy.

This is really a two person coach... the way we use it.. And, there's three additional seats on in the back bench seat if we needed it.

Another great thing about a Class B.... we'll NEVER overload the coach.... it can handle an additional 3,000 pounds of cargo including passengers.... Since there's only two of us and limited space for gear.... we'll never even come close to that number...

Lots of people with larger Class C and Class A rigs have tons of extra space and they fill those up to the gills with "stuff"... don't want to deal with that.. if I want extra stuff, I have that at home...

I read the post about you purchasing the 1999 for $20,000 and putting $40,000 in upgrades..? My question is how does that jive with you insurance company?? Are you covered for the FULL value in case of a loss or accident? I would be a little concerned about that?

How many miles are on your 1999 Roadtrek Versatile?? And that's a gas model...

My wife thinks we're kind of "over improving" our 2012..

My response to this is that there were several things necessary to get a vehicle like this "ready to roll"..... like new tires, batteries and fix that dump hose..ugh.

The other upgrades like a better camera, sound and navigation system, solar panel, proximity sensors etc. were just to make it more comfortable for me to drive and control my vehicle.

We've had it a year... and put almost 15,000 miles on the rig.... I'm not letting the grass grow under our feet and having the rig as a front driveway ornament.

After that trip across the entire USA... yeah, we went a lot of places.. coming back I'm realizing that yes, I need a more stable suspension. Did I expect this to happen at 41,000 miles... NO, I didn't, but, it's a lot of weight. Being safe is a number one priority for me.... It's $3,100 ... but losing my life, having an accident in the rig, is a whole lot more !!

I figure that the diesel engine ( if you don't consider the other stuff hanging on the motor like the emissions, water pump, fuel pump, etc. ) is good for 350,000 to 500,000 miles. That's a long way to go.... Some diesels have gone way further than 500,000 miles if properly maintained.. 19 MPG on the highway is kind of hard to beat on an RV..

Getting this coach as the 2nd owner from the original owners ( who were local to Southern California and in their 60s like we are) was a BIG PLUS for me. And the inside condition was immaculate.

You're' right when you said " there's no perfect coach"... never is.

My RV shop tells me that they have so many clients who have brought their rigs in for a suspension upgrade... seems like a lot of manufacturers of the base van don't consider the extra constant weight of the conversion and everything that's going to hang off the chassis.... three water tanks, black, fresh and gray... generator, plus all of the kitchen equipment inside and bathroom fixtures.

I'm sure that a lot of DIY folks out there can do a lot of work themselves from mechanical to building custom interiors... I say, more power to you...
And, you can customize it anyway you like...

Sounds like you and I have something in common, I like to have this work contracted out to a professional that knows exactly what they're doing... it will be done perfect the first time.

I purchased the van to USE and enjoy it... not make this a project... I know my limitations.

Well, I dropped off the van today for the suspension and will get it back later in the week.

Keep going on the upgrade... making it personal for your needs is all that counts.
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Nice!

I wish I had looked a little longer and paid a little more for a RV in better condition. I have fixed a lot of stuff and some stuff I haven't been able to fix I'm just living with it as is.
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Nice!

I wish I had looked a little longer and paid a little more for a RV in better condition. I have fixed a lot of stuff and some stuff I haven't been able to fix I'm just living with it as is.
Lennie,

I see rigs today that I didn't see last May 2017 when I purchased my RS Adventuous.. with less miles... don't beat yourself up... it's not worth it..

Waiting is always a crap shoot... I've had to put a lot of extra money into my coach right after I got it, tires, batteries, other things... It does add up...

What's your rig?? Attach a picture....
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I bought the first used RV I looked at because it was the floor plan and length I wanted. It looks much better in the picture than in person. The roof leaked like a sieve, plus lots of other stuff and I learned it's better to do most everything myself than pay someone a lot of money to do a poor job that takes them 4 weeks.

It does have low miles but sometimes it's better to have a little more miles and more consistent use. It's a '05 Pleasure Way Plateau TS. I do enjoy it and now I understand 2 or 3 things will break and I fix 1 or 2 each time. Except this last trip I fixed a bunch of stuff and the repair list is relatively short at the moment.
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I bought the first used RV I looked at because it was the floor plan and length I wanted. It looks much better in the picture than in person. The roof leaked like a sieve, plus lots of other stuff and I learned it's better to do most everything myself than pay someone a lot of money to do a poor job that takes them 4 weeks.

It does have low miles but sometimes it's better to have a little more miles and more consistent use. It's a '05 Pleasure Way Plateau TS. I do enjoy it and now I understand 2 or 3 things will break and I fix 1 or 2 each time. Except this last trip I fixed a bunch of stuff and the repair list is relatively short at the moment.
Lennie, you say the roof leaked... is your roof metal or fiberglass? Or was it around one of the sealed openings around something installed on the roof.. or the windshield?

Pleasure Way builds a very decent product I'm told... how many miles are on this? What price did you pay and how long have you had it??

Yeah, fixing it yourself can save money...if you know what your're doing...
I don't work on my RV... I take it to my RV shop... or for mechanical work to the garage..

OK, so you have the 2.7 Five cylinder diesel engine..?? I've heard good things about that engine..
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