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Old 08-09-2016, 06:13 AM   #1
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This was displayed on The Fit RV:

For me, the good:

Shorter chassis.
Able to go offroad decently.
No TVs.
Decent bed. WGO uses fiberglass bump-outs to allow sleeping transversely.
Plenty of storage space.
The fold out dining table seems to be decent.
The cassette toilet (which is both a pro and a con) is a decent European model which rotates out of the way for a shower.)
The ladder storage is nifty.

The cons:

They are likely to go with an A/C as an option, and assume someone uses a Honda generator to power it, like some Sportsmobile models. As the rig is displayed, if I lived in a dry climate or something more northern, it would be just fine. For a hot, humid climate... no go.

No real 120 volt electric system other than adapters to charge USB devices from the 12 volt system. There is an inverter for the induction stovetop for brief, high amperage loads of 5-10 minutes to cook stuff on a single burner. The Truma heating system is used, so I am pretty sure the rig has propane... but having even a single burner, or a SMEV/Dometic sink/burner that used LP gas would be more useful than the induction stovetop, especially in a rig where electricity is so precious (just solar, no generator or high-amp alternator.) I just question the design decision to go with an induction stove, as opposed to a common LP gas range.
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There are some ideas in this concept that will surely show up in other models. I don't have much hope for seeing this as a production model though. Market is extremely small. The rack system is definately going to be on the new Transit model and probably on the Promasters. The flooring material is also probably going to be used as the Beaufloor vinyl is reportedly problematic.

Will cassettes be in other models? Will "no A/C" become a thing?

Some people have said they want a more bare-bones model for less money. Not sure if this would be it (I'd expect price over $100k), but this would be a cool way to do it.

Now if their goal was to wipe out a company like Sportsmobile or Outdoor Van, this might be a good way to do it. Surely it would be much, much cheaper.
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Roadtrek has delivered a few 4x4 Sprinters on customer special order.


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Roadtrek has delivered a few 4x4 Sprinters on customer special order.


WGO has delivered some 4x4 Eras too, yet it must be so few as I've not seen one in the wild. They had one at Hershey last year - don't remember if it was an XL or regular length. Definately it was not a short wheelbase like this concept van.

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On the Winnebago, that bubble at the back is good. It does not look awkward at all.

One RV builder did the same thing years ago (I forgotten which, maybe Airstream?), but that one looked terrible.
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This appears to be an Airstream Interstate 4x4.

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Looks like a pretty good setup with not much stuff reducing ground clearance like you would find on the typical Sprinter 4x4 from Roadtrek or on the ERA. Only thing I wonder about is the induction cooktop, if you have propane for the Truma why use an induction cooktop?

If they do something close to this I think it would compete pretty well with Hymer designs and Hymer has no 4x4 coming anytime soon to the US so they have a good differentiation. As noted, is there a large enough market for Winnebago to produce it??

Who will be the first to do a 4x4 Promaster Class B over here??
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I'd not hold out any hope for a 4x4 Promaster. At least not this generation of the US spec van.

Most people could get my with a small lift kit and some aggressive tires. So far I've come up empty looking for a 3" lift kit.
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Personally I think it's great that a mainstream manufacturer is creating a short Sprinter to compete with Outside van type setups. Watching the Fitrv video the walk through spoke to how my wife and I would use a B van... Small for use as daily driver and fit in a regular spot. Inside easy to clean after muddy fishing and hiking. Ram mounts with USB throughout the van were perfect (we don't use TV). Finally a small bathroom with swing away toilet and NO sink so I can take a quick shower before work after fly fishing or a morning hike. Yay to no generator.

I wish it could be propane free but if not then I agree with above that propane cooktop (even single burner to fit the space) would be better. I live in the North East so I would go with the AC option and only use when plugged in. One thing it needs Is a screen side door like the Travatos and a rear screen.

The ultimate would be underhood generator, diesel heat/h2o but that would be a lot more expensive and not totally required for my use.

After several B Sprinter rentals this year this van ticks all the boxes for how my wife and I would use a van. I am probably more on the DIY end of layouts and features but I don't have the time or skills to build one. Also, the small custom shops (VS, OSV, etc) are expensive and on the West coast. Being able to buy one of these from a Winnie dealer with a warranty would be awesome. If I could get one for $90k or less after dealer discount I would buy one.
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