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Old 06-30-2017, 12:34 AM   #1
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Default Tiniest Hymer Promaster Carrado/Axion

Just saw an Axion 18' Promaster parked at See Grins in Gilroy CA. Did notice Ecotrek 400 but no Voltstart. Looked like a nav screen in the dash. Didn't get all the details, like if separate holding tanks (doubtful). Some pics on Canadian site US equivalent of Canadian price about $73k. Bed folds out to sleep 2, but it looks short for tall people. 2 seat belts up front only.
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Old 06-30-2017, 12:51 AM   #2
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More pictures from another Canadian dealer:

[URL="http://www.sicardrv.com/rv-inventory/new/motorhome/2017-carado-axion-axion/537757/"]

Sorry don't know how to make the link work.

Can't find anything on a Hymer website tho'.
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Old 06-30-2017, 12:51 AM   #3
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Very Interesting. Side Sofa is my favorite floor plan. I had that in my first Great West Van Classic Supreme and no one has made one since.

Must give Hymer a call about this one. I hope it is not the same shoddy quality as the Sunlight/Banff model.

I don't get the "Carado" bit...

Carrado Hymer Axion
Carrado Hymer Banff

Both are listed on this site. So does Hymer have a new company called Carrado?? Is it just in Canada??
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Hmmm....is Hymer going to start doing a bunch of private label stuff for various outlets? Essentially that is what they are doing with Camping World with the Sunlight. I guess you could think they are protecting their brand my making this vans really cheap and poorly constructed, I suppose. Should make their dealers happy? Personally, I think this is really short-sighted and a poor decision.
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OK... here's the story. Sunlight is a brand that will only be sold at Camping World as the Van One.

Carado is one of the Hymer brands in Europe and the Antipodes. It seems that they are going to start selling their new floor plans as Carado here in the US... at the Hymer dealers. I think we are watching their NA business plan morphing away from Roadtrek (pure speculation on my part). And hopefully bringing more of their European floor plans that so many of us have wanted.

My Minnesota dealer is supposed to getting this new Axion in the next couple weeks and I will go and check it out... I hope that the quality will be more like an Activ and NOT like a Sunlight. LOL
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Don't get your hopes up - from the pictures it looks very similar in build quality - the cabinets and some of the hardware looks the same. They also use the same shower pan and bath sink setup.

It's hard to believe the Aktiv comes out of the same shop!
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Possibly... even probably... but the fact is that it is EXACTLY the floor plan that I want. AND it is on the shortest Promaster... which is also what I have been wanting. It is what I would design if I went to Sportsmobile. I don't need luxury... I want functionality. My rigs get pretty light usage... and if it is reflected in the price... even better.
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That Axion floorplan does seem a lot more functional than the Sonne for a compact (under 18ft) unit.

Kinda cute too!
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Love the floorplan. Hope it's better quality.
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more junk from Hymer. I have no idea what they are doing.
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