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Old 12-24-2019, 06:07 PM   #61
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Old 12-26-2019, 09:36 AM   #62
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Let me remind people, there is a link from a January 2019 article, almost a year ago. "However, if the schedule is to be followed, the upcoming Sprinter will enter the U.S. market in late 2020."

It doesn't seem to be behind schedule, at least not that schedule.
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Let me remind people, there is a link from a January 2019 article, almost a year ago. "However, if the schedule is to be followed, the upcoming Sprinter will enter the U.S. market in late 2020."

It doesn't seem to be behind schedule, at least not that schedule.
I agree the 2020 Sprinters are not behind schedules typically followed by Daimler for the North American market. Normally the USA automobile market releases the next years models late in the year prior to the designated model year. But Daimler has not followed that schedule, especially not for Sprinters.

That is an interesting article you linked. Reads like one of those Robo generated pieces.

It is talking about the new Sprinter generation three (VS30) model that was released to the world in early 2018. It has been in production in USA for almost a year now as the model year 2019 Sprinter. The 2020 model year Sprinter will be virtually unchanged from the 2019 models now on sales in USA and Canada. That entire article is about two years out of sync with reality.
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Old 12-27-2019, 02:25 AM   #65
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That is an interesting article you linked. Reads like one of those Robo generated pieces.
That would certainly explain the clumsy wording. I was thinking some of it was taken from a translating a Mercedes news release for Europe.

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It was written a year ago. I suspect most of Mercedes marketing for "new" Sprinters will include highlighting new features that are not unique to the current annual model. Most of their potential customers are going to be more familiar with the older models as a baseline. They aren't going to be comparing the 2020's features to the 2019 models.
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On a side note about the demise of diesels - Mitsubishi Fuso Truck of America, Inc., 89% owned by Daimler AG, dropped the diesel engine in the FE medium duty trucks after the 2017 model year. They are now powered by a PSI 6.0L gasoline V-8.

https://www.globenewswire.com/news-r...L-Engines.html

https://www.mitfuso.com/en-us/blog/w...ne-over-diesel
The US Van usage is very contrarian to what happens outside NA. Bulk of Vans are diesel. Japanese offer some petrol versions. No problems with supply and there are more Vans available than what you would get in the US as the basis of a Class B. What would give people a chuckle here is the US Fuso site, that only offers ONE truck, light truck, not a medium, that can be had with a GM sourced 6 litre Gas engine to replace the 3 litre Diesel. On outside NA sites Fuso's tow roughly 100tons and go up to 13 litres in capacity not 3litres
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The US Van usage is very contrarian to what happens outside NA. Bulk of Vans are diesel. Japanese offer some petrol versions. No problems with supply and there are more Vans available than what you would get in the US as the basis of a Class B. What would give people a chuckle here is the US Fuso site, that only offers ONE truck, light truck, not a medium, that can be had with a GM sourced 6 litre Gas engine to replace the 3 litre Diesel. On outside NA sites Fuso's tow roughly 100tons and go up to 13 litres in capacity not 3litres
For Fuso this could be the key target, GM 6l. can do it diesel can't. Perhaps even LPG.
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For Fuso this could be the key target, GM 6l. can do it diesel can't. Perhaps even LPG.
Japanese Trucks outside NA, have electric, Hybrid, CNG as well as Diesel. HUGE differences in what is shown on their US websites, compared to what you can get outside NA.
Petrol, ( Gas) engines are peculiar to Japanese Light and MDT's in NA. Most Japanese Trucks in NA are diesel. Their definition of MDT's is different going up to 52,000lbs GVWR.
Isuzu has a 5.2 MDT as their top truck on their US site, but a 15 litre Cabover On Highway Tractor on their non NA sites. Hino has a Conventional 8.8 Class 8 Truck on their US site, but that is their Hino 500 Cabover MDT outside NA
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Seeing as how this group hasn't been able to even get their website back up and running (it's been down for well over a month--seriously?!!!) it's not hard to believe they dropped the ball when it came to getting the 2020 recertified.

As an aside, Daimler AG is scrambling to cut costs system wide. Even though revenue booked is up over the FY previous, NOI was down--but they still booked Ä2.709B! While everyone on the board may not be getting the new Maybach as a bonus this year, its okay (if the spy pics of the forthcoming lame-oid looking new S Class is any indication). Cutting costs is one thing, but when cuts go to deep, and those ever so hard earned customers are forced to go to competing Brands--gee Bart, I dunno if that's such a good idea. [emoji848]

I started this post thinking "the sky isn't falling, get it together!" However, considering recent world events, and the apparent dingalings running things at various divisions within Daimer, maybe the sky IS falling for them, the fat lady is somewhere doing her vocal warm ups, and just waiting excitedly to belt one out for the late great House of Daimer. :-l
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