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Old 04-04-2018, 05:04 PM   #51
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I guess I am missing the point here. I understand you had pix of external wiring that was not adequate. The fact that there was no switch, when the manual says it connects the shore power ground through to the output ground, completing the circuit, is because Hymer didn't use one. The switch referred to in the manual would be internal to the inverter and likely tied in with the switching that does the autobonding when inverting.

I understand the issues with your van, but what I am saying is that if the inverter were wired as the posted manual said, I don't see any reason it would not be safe and legal. This is vitally important in the real world of products, safety, and liability because if the manual is correctly done to provide a safe product, the manufacturer is mostly off the hook for liability or penalties. At that point you have two other things that could have happened. One is that the assembler messed up and got the wiring wrong, which is a lesser problem to Hymer than if they intentionally went against the manufacturers specifications, as they would be mainly on the hook for poor training and not intentional decisions. If they chose to wire the unit as your van was, contrary to the manufacturers manual and specifications, there potential problems grow exponentially in most cases.
Thanks Booster. I drew the grounding schematic. I'm starting a new thread and keeping it simple this time.
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Old 04-04-2018, 05:26 PM   #52
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I have been rereading this thread. In the initial article it said that the shore power ground was hooked up only to the inverter input AC terminal strip, but then says it was reduced to size 18ga and connected to the inverter chassis (on paint). Does this mean that there was an 18ga wire from the terminal strip to the chassis?

If so, in the way this inverter appears to be wired and switched, the shore to van safety ground connects THROUGH the inverter via an internal switch only when shore power is plugged in, so the 18ga wire would appear then to be a case ground for some reason, and would not be needed to carry the full 30 maps in most cases. The manual does not state a need for that wire, and it's only use would be if a hot wire came in contact with the shore power line when it wasn't plugged into shore power, I think. The main ground for the case would be the #6 wire from the case to chassis they show.

Pictures of how it was originally wired would be very useful, I think.
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Here is a screenshot of the provided earlier manual said to be for the van in question. It is a pictorial and explanation of the neutral/ground bonding method, but also says the shore safety ground is connected through the inverter itself, not be wiring from the shore cable to the output to van cable, or through the case. It does give you an option to wire it also, it appears, but it would not be required for full 30 safety capacity in the shore safety ground.

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Old 04-04-2018, 05:45 PM   #54
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Here is a screenshot of the provided earlier manual said to be for the van in question. It is a pictorial and explanation of the neutral/ground bonding method, but also says the shore safety ground is connected through the inverter itself, not be wiring from the shore cable to the output to van cable, or through the case. It does give you an option to wire it also, it appears, but it would not be required for full 30 safety capacity in the shore safety ground.

I agree. I'd also say that the 18 gauge safety ground in the inverter isn't correct for the inverter's 17.4 amp output
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Old 04-04-2018, 05:47 PM   #55
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Please add new posts to the thread "Aktiv and Roadtrek Ecotrek are unsafe"
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Does your inverter look anything like the one in this Aims manual. This was linked in an earlier thread as being a private label unit Roadtrek uses.

http://www.aimscorp.net/documents/PI...0W12V120VR.pdf
SOMEWHERE in the 9 pages we posted in these two threads someone pasted a non-sanitized inverter manual. Its not this QUOTED post and its not the one I posted (attached again) but it looked a like the one I'm posting. Does someone know where that manual is now.
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That was picked out of another thread, I think posted by Gerrym51 in the Zion or one of the other lithium battery threads, IIRC.
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actually i think roadtrek used rebadged aimpower and then started buying them direct from the china supplier to aimspower.

the chinese manufacturer has it's units used all over the world. However they are usually used at fixed sites.

mobile uits are actually a relatively new concept
Hi Gerrym51,
Please read Booster's latest post in this thread. Do you know where the manual is?
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Hi Gerrym51,
Please read Booster's latest post in this thread. Do you know where the manual is?
the only good manual is aimspower .i looked at their site today and they still use re-badged powerstars as their pure sine inverter/chargers. they wrote their own manuals.

since roadtrek now buys direct from powerstar they cannot use aimspower manuals.

they at least give you that useless powerstar sheet. back when i bought they gave me a trip-lite manual which is their base tripp lite 750 they use.

your best bet is still aimspower
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