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Old 11-24-2019, 01:46 PM   #1
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Default Another Travato K Clone

I was putting together a list of what to see at the Tampa show and stumbled across this new offering from Coachmen - the Nova 20 RB <https://coachmenrv.com/class-b-motorhomes/nova>. It looks to have just been displayed as a prototype at the Las Vegas Dealar's Assn show.

The only videos I have found to date on this are and

The display model had what look like dual-pane acrylic windows and the Coachmen flyer says that the fresh and black tanks (no mention of grey tank) are inside the heated space, so I'm guessing they are aiming somewhat at the adventure van snowboarding set.

So that's one more item on my list of things to check out in January.
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Old 11-24-2019, 04:23 PM   #2
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Like the openness of the Travato floorplan. And at least they are installing awning type windows. Sliders are no good in any kind of rain (and you still need ventilation), but so many Promaster and Transit builds are coming out with the OEM sliders.

Our older rv with awning type windows and a Maxxfan (has a permanent cover that Fantastic fans lack) roof vent , you're never without good ventilation. It has saved us multiple times from being inside a sticky, stuffy rv when boon docking and rain shower hit.

Good luck.
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It looks rather like a Hymer Aktiv was crossed with a Carado Banff. LOL Fancy European windows... nicer looking cabinetry than the Travato.

Oddly I had just encountered this rig this morning on the Coachman website. There might be more info there for those that are interested.
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…so many Promaster and Transit builds are coming out with the OEM sliders.
There are no OEM sliders for the PM. The only OEM glass in PM's is fixed.
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There are no OEM sliders for the PM. The only OEM glass in PM's is fixed.
Makes me scratch my head even more if the upfitters are replacing OEM glass and not making them awning style.

We make trips that last on average 3+ weeks. Every trip has benefited on at least one or more occasions from being able to open windows during a rain shower.

In our Chevy Express, both OEM back door windows flip out from the bottom and both upfitted side windows are awning style. That surrounds our sleeping area with 4 windows that can be opened in nearly any weather and they can take advantage of whatever direction the wind is blowing. All are right about head-height when the rear lounge in down as a bed. This allows us to feel even the slightest breeze which makes sleeping more comfortable.

If the natural breeze is not enough, the Maxxfan can be left open even in pretty severe rain events, so ventilation is never a problem. Every time I drool over the newer class b's, I wonder if it would be worth the loss of 270 degrees of all-weather windows we have now. So far, I can't imagine going without that feature.
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Makes me scratch my head even more if the upfitters are replacing OEM glass and not making them awning style.

We make trips that last on average 3+ weeks. Every trip has benefited on at least one or more occasions from being able to open windows during a rain shower.

In our Chevy Express, both OEM back door windows flip out from the bottom and both upfitted side windows are awning style. That surrounds our sleeping area with 4 windows that can be opened in nearly any weather and they can take advantage of whatever direction the wind is blowing. All are right about head-height when the rear lounge in down as a bed. This allows us to feel even the slightest breeze which makes sleeping more comfortable.

If the natural breeze is not enough, the Maxxfan can be left open even in pretty severe rain events, so ventilation is never a problem. Every time I drool over the newer class b's, I wonder if it would be worth the loss of 270 degrees of all-weather windows we have now. So far, I can't imagine going without that feature.
Hey rowiebowie, that is no big deal. If you purchase a new one, just borrow one of Elon's Steel Balls.

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.....................Every time I drool over the newer class b's, I wonder if it would be worth the loss of 270 degrees of all-weather windows we have now. So far, I can't imagine going without that feature.
Exactly, for us it is 360-degree view. With one awning window and Maxxair we have good air exchange. On occasion I use a little SS prop allowing for cracked open rear door but still locked (still need a rear screen). I am glad that more manufacturers are paying attention to open layout.
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Hey rowiebowie, that is no big deal. If you purchase a new one, just borrow one of Elon's Steel Balls.

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Now, Bud!

I wonder how (or if) those windows open. Guess we'll know in 2021.
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What’s really ridiculous is when they paint the panel black to imitate the look of full windows from the outside.

I also crave the 360° view, but I chose Motion sliders—the biggest that would fit. They appear to be higher quality than the CRL's, and are easier to operate. Tern, etc., are too small. We spend a fair amount of time in the rain. We can usually open windows because the opening part is on the underside of the window’s angle.
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Not sure that it is ridiculous, it does create a cleaner look.
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Our Paseo has the OEM Transit windows, which are pop-out, not sliders. They pop out towards the rear so they can be opened while traveling and water won't come in. But when sitting still, if there is wind, then some water can come in. Our solution to this has been to just pop the awning out about 18 inches - enough to provide cover for the door and window, but not enough to get caught by wind.

Generally if it is raining, it isn't stinking hot. So one window popped out (on the awning side) and the MaxxAir fan going is usually plenty of ventilation.
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It's nice, but IMHO the:

2020 Thor Sequence

beats 'em all for features, price, and real, full size Promaster windows!

My DIY Promaster has full OEM-style non-opening CRL windows all around, and the open feel is perfect... I have a Maxxaire at the back, and two vents I put in the front windows - the air flow is just right.
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Coachmen tried to copy the Travato 59K but missed in a few areas:

1) That large white wall on the left of the entry door blocks the view out, and is somewhat unwelcoming in appearance.

2) Front seats don't have a flip or pullout table that can be used for dining or computer space to expand the overall living area.

3) Both beds are 2" narrower, and 6" shorter on the passenger side than the Travato.

4) The above cab storage space opening is restricted by whatever that panel is.

On one positive note, they did mount the shower curtain on a track. Don't know why WGO does not do that.
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