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Old 09-08-2018, 01:56 AM   #1
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Default No Allstays for Android anymore?

I have a few year old Allstays on my phone, but we went to put it on DW's new phone and now it appears to be iphone only.



Bummer.


Any new and exciting replacements?
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Old 09-08-2018, 02:54 AM   #2
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Interesting . . .

We have Allstays Camp & Tent on one of our android phones and was considering adding it to another but apparently some back-alley shenanigans now limits this app to i-thingies as you discovered.

We have, however, had good luck accessing Allstays through their website/browser on our non-Camp&Tent android.
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Old 09-08-2018, 01:23 PM   #3
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Seems that they are cutting off their nose to spite their face?
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Old 09-08-2018, 01:39 PM   #4
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Seems that they are cutting off their nose to spite their face?

I think Apple gave them some kind of sweet deal to be the exclusive App source for Allstays, at least that is the way it looks.


The other possibility, or that might just be contributing, is that it allows them to drive business to Allstays Pro off the website. It does have more capability, but at $30+ per year, certainly isn't inexpensive.
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Seems that they are cutting off their nose to spite their face?
Not they. He. Allstays appears to be owned and operated by a nice guy named Adam Longfellow. I had discourse with him a few months ago when we were trying to hack our Garmin. I really, really, really want my Garmin to show Allstays content. I drive solo across the country and I cannot pull my Allstays app every time I need to find something, and I don't have a navigator in the passenger seat to do it for me. I need all that helpful stuff automatically fed into the 7 inch Garmin screen that's right in front of me - not the useless crap that Garmin feeds instead (Shell gas stations and car repair shop icons is mostly what I've got polluting that screen - ugh, I hate it because it's worse than nothing at all).

Right now there's no way to do that. My husband could hack the Garmin to make it happen, but it would take more free time than we are willing to spend.

Anyway, the upshot is that I've strongly encouraged Adam to pursue that line of business. He needs a deal with Garmin - what I described above would sell like hotcakes. He might be contracting some of his service areas in order to focus more intensively on others. I can only hope.
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Old 09-09-2018, 10:17 AM   #6
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Maybe it’s economics - it costs money to support multiple platforms and iOS has more users.
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Maybe it’s economics - it costs money to support multiple platforms and iOS has more users.
But it looks like they are essentially going after only half the US mobile market:

http://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-...tes-of-america
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But it looks like they are essentially going after only half the US mobile market:

Mobile Operating System Market Share United States Of America | StatCounter Global Stats
This chart is a bit misleading, as Android has a lot more "fragmentation" than iOS: this means a lot of Android devices are stuck on a specific Android version (often very far behind the current one) and can't be updated. As an app developer (specially if you don't have a lot of resources) it becomes hell very fast trying to cover the whole market and handle the specificities of each version and testing them.

In that regard iOS is doing a bit better as most devices can be carried forward in the newest versions for several years, adding to that there is a very limited number of devices to deal with compared to the much wider Android ecosystem.

It is one reason some developers decide to focus on iOS if they have to make a choice. Another common reason is that people tend to spend more per device on the Apple app store than on Android, not sure if this is a factor here.

It is unfortunate that this results in less choice for everybody, but unless you're a somewhat sizable outfit, developing for both ecosystems is pretty taxing.

Here is a chart (from 2/1 showing the different versions of Android. If you just focus on the latest versions (here 6,7, 8 and 8.1) that's about 60% of the installed base. Meaning 30% of the total market, and you still have to deal with a lot of variations:

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...th-android-os/
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We carry an iPad along with our Android phones just to have access to both sets of apps.
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What I was trying to say was that perhaps the developer looked at how many users they had on both platforms and found that there were more iOS users than Android users. Earlier posters made it sound like a conspiracy against Android. I was just suggesting there might be a valid business reason.
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