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Old 02-23-2018, 01:12 AM   #1
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Default Pleasureway Plateau FL vs Winnebago Era 70x

Checkbook is in hand and after 2 years of looking at almost every class B out there I have narrowed it down to these final contenders,mot some hope!

Does anyone have any insight on one over the other or their personal perspectives!? The PW's quality is second to none in my opinion and I really like the galley on the passengers side, makes driving and seeing the blind spots on that side a non issue. The Era has some nice benefits, price being one. I was quoted $110,000 and change for a fully loaded 4x4 Era and $139,000 for the PW loaded. The PW does have some added benefits, 2 lithium ion batteries and 85w solar but no 4x4. I do appreciate the 5 year coach warranty PW has but struggle over the $29,000 difference.

Oh the dilemma, maybe an easier decision over a glass of wine!
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Old 02-23-2018, 10:11 AM   #2
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How long realistically will you keep the RV?


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Old 02-23-2018, 12:22 PM   #3
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"and I really like the galley on the passengers side, makes driving and seeing the blind spots on that side a non issue."

Hi RangerEd,

That is a "non issue" to begin with. Yes, I know that PW claims that, but think about it.

I had never thought about the subject until I purchased a B from the son of a retired trucker and wife. His father had passed away and his mother went to assisted living. I was driving the less than 2 year old Roadtrek. He commented on the small mirrors that his dad had mounted on the side mirrors and that they did not make any sense. I did not have a chance during the short drive to judge but would have bet they made sense. Later I confirmed they really really work.

I can see it all with the two mirrors. Many vehicles don't have a bunch of windows on the sides. I suggest that you erase that advantage with the PW. Not that a galley on one side vs the other isn't an advantage, it probably is for many of us.

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Old 02-23-2018, 04:23 PM   #4
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Just my opinion the galley on the passenger side is nice but I don't quite understand the blind spot situation either, that's what the mirrors are for, but to prep food and drinks the camp side of the rig and just hand it all down to the guests on the chairs under the awning is the main plus for us.
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Old 02-23-2018, 05:40 PM   #5
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There are pros and cons of everything.

The Winnebago is cheaper because it is cheaper.
Open the cabinet doors and drawers and you will see staples everywhere.

Open the PW cabinets and you will see solid maple and high/med density boards with screws and metal brackets and proper joinery craftsmanship.

The solar/battery system in the ERA is basic. You cannot get more basic (cheap) than that. Which is not a bad thing, because in a few years you can rip out everything out and install the latest and bestest solar/lithium or whatever fuel cell technology at the time.
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Just my opinion the galley on the passenger side is nice but I don't quite understand the blind spot situation either, that's what the mirrors are for, but to prep food and drinks the camp side of the rig and just hand it all down to the guests on the chairs under the awning is the main plus for us.
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Go sit in the driver's chair.
You are so high up, you will not see the roof of a Toyota Corolla.
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I agree the galley in the side is not a critical feature, it’s more a nice to have — and probably for some drivers being “blind” there would be annoying because they are in the habit of looking directly.

I find the wide angle mirrors to be a bit less effective than I like.

These days side view cameras are pretty cheap, well less than $200.

So my plan is to get one for each side and a dedicated monitor for it on the dash.

So when I look to the right I can see the two mirrors and the monitor over there all in one glance.

No such thing as too much visibility.


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"So my plan is to get one for each side and a dedicated monitor for it on the dash."

When is this? When do you plan to start?

Thanks.

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The Plateau FL comes with the MB active safety package, which includes blind-spot detection. It is very effective. I would NEVER buy another vehicle without this feature. Good mirrors are nice, but radar is far more effective.

If you want a random opinion, go with the Pleasureway. The layout is very similar to our no-longer-available GWV Legend. ARV copied this floorpan, and with good reason.
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I have an older PW Plateau TS, I liked the kitchen on the passenger side because it felt more open when the door was open. As for blind side visibility, I added the largest convex mirrors that would work on the side mirrors. I moved them around on the mirrors to find the best visibility before sticking them in their permanent locations. They work really well, night is a little harder but I don't drive a lot at night.

I'm pretty good about keeping track of where trucks, cars, motorcycles and bicyclists are while I'm driving without having to check the passenger side windows except Los Angeles. There have been a few times I was glad I could look through them, one time I asked my SO to check his side, he said it was clear and when I looked out the side windows I saw a car.

You may never need that extra visibility, if I want to go somewhere and stay in the US I have a choice drive through LA or east through the desert so it's common for me to drive through the crazy traffic in LA, with their heavy traffic, lots of stop and go plus drivers who dart in and out. Most places won't be that hectic.

Both models are nice, you'll probably be happy with either one. I don't know if all Class Bs are this way or not but mine doesn't squeak or rattle while driving down the road like other RVs I've been in.

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