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Old 08-27-2014, 01:07 PM   #1
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A question about an Agile refrigerator showed up on the Yahoo board, and it was mentioned that it comes with a compressor frig. Just looked at the Roadtrek site and it now looks like all the Sprinters come with the compressor frig. Chevies still with the 3 way.

Not sure if this is a good or bad thing at this point. I hope that they let the buyers know about the extra power use, as they come with only 220AH of battery. All do seem to now have the two more battery option and solar option available, so with those options the frig would be a very good thing for almost everyone, I think.

I am sure that the compressor frig saves Roadtrek a lot of money, as they are usually cheaper than a 3 way and much easier to install. They also gain the ability to put it nearly anywhere in the van without issue.
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Old 08-27-2014, 01:22 PM   #2
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Booster-since i follow Roadtrek closely-2 years ago Roadtrek changed all sprinters to compressor fridge-. The Ranger also has the compressor fridge-which is one of the reasons i'm getting that and not the 190.

prior to that they all indeed had 3 way fridge. i think the change over co-incided with the E-trek introduction.
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Old 08-27-2014, 01:38 PM   #3
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The way I see and understand it is a compressor frig like a 6.8 cf Nova Kool that Advanced RV has been putting in is going to use up about 90 AH per day. That would deplete close to half of a two-battery setup so you should couple that with solar to replenish at least that amount I would think if you wanted to dry camp any extended period past an overnight. The rest of the load would be the traditional usual. Would it work without solar? Possibly. It would be comparable then to a traditional one-battery setup but you'd better be driving and touring and seeking overnight electrical hookups as part of your routine. Either that, or they are definitely assuming you'll need to run a generator routinely or using the high engine idle. So, evidently they've figured out the normal customer would survive with the setup and, of course, once stung with a depleted battery one quickly learns how to manage.

It's too close for me. It would require constant battery monitoring and management affecting your daily decisions. I learned to do that with my one battery Pleasure-way and then enjoyed what seemed to be a luxury in comparison with my two battery GWVan Legend, both with 3-way friges and propane backup.
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Old 08-27-2014, 01:45 PM   #4
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One other thought. Class Bs are gravitating to larger refrigerators away from the the traditional 3.8-4.0 cf versions. Now many run anywhere from 5 to 7 cf. Could it be that a 3-way simply would burn battery power too fast when stopped if you don't switch over thus would definitely require propane? With my one battery Pleasure-way I could barely get an hour stopped at lunch on 12V without the low battery warning going off.
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One other thought. Class Bs are gravitating to larger refrigerators away from the the traditional 3.8-4.0 cf versions. Now many run anywhere from 5 to 7 cf. Could it be that a 3-way simply would burn battery power too fast when stopped if you don't switch over thus would definitely require propane? With my one battery Pleasure-way I could barely get an hour stopped at lunch on 12V without the low battery warning going off.
When we had a 3way, we only ran it on DC while driving, and always converted it to propane if stopped for really short times, like potty stops. The CS seems to be the only one with a big frig, but even with 440AH of battery, if it is hot, you could use nearly 25% per day. I think for compressor frigs solar is going to almost a necessity for most folks, unless they drive every day, two at most. You also need enough battery capacity to cover the really poor solar conditions that happen occasionally, or be willing to drive some if that happens.

I think compressor frigs are going to take over a large part of the market, but there will be a learning curve for the manufacturers and the customers.
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Jim Hammill implied(or did i infer) on a post at roadtrekking that the 3 models that currently have 3-ways(170,190,210) would at some point either come with compressor or have compressor as option.
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I had a large fridge, 7 or 8 cu ft in the B+ I had. It was only 2-way, AC or propane. It the time I figured it was because a DC element would not be adequate (edit: absorption not compressor) so it was left out of the fridge design.

Great point about the new compressor fridges allowing for more floor plans and being easier to install. Cycling the batteries more often will mean they'll be replaced more often also. More batteries sharing the load means a less deep draw down & will definitely help with battery longevity.
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Both of my 3-way absorption refrigerators never performed well on DC. Consequently I took to running them most all the time on propane when not plugged into shore power. They used very little propane.
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Both of my 3-way absorption refrigerators never performed well on DC. Consequently I took to running them most all the time on propane when not plugged into shore power. They used very little propane.
Me too....
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Plus me. Absorption fridges are quiet and as long as one parks them on the more or less level they are fine. If compressor fridges are noisy, count me out. My next rv will have a bigger fridge but I am not convinced about the old-fashioned compressor fridges. I only use battery for fridge while driving as there is a safety problem with using propane and insurance companies go bananas if you get smucked and were using fridge on propane!! Otherwise, the fridge uses very little LP>
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