Journey with Confidence RV GPS App RV Trip Planner RV LIFE Campground Reviews RV Maintenance Take a Speed Test Free 7 Day Trial ×
 
 


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 09-20-2023, 09:42 PM   #1
Bronze Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2023
Location: Texas
Posts: 24
Default Lots of B-asic Questions

I'm trying to wrap my brain around Class B travel after traveling in a simple van set up for years. I wonder about lots of "little" things, and would like to hear from experienced owners about them:

1. Has anyone put a conventional, box spring mattress on top of the existing bed? The Ontour2.2 would work for us in terms of bed length, but we are very set on the mattress we use in our current van.

2. Refrigerators: Do the larger compression fridges keep up in extreme temps? How is the noise level? What do you do for ice for drinks (we like lots)?

3. Where in the world do you put cups, phones, eyeglasses, etc. given the lack of bedside surfaces in most B's I've seen? (We have deep window sills with cupholders, etc.)

4. Is there enough space for a few basic tools, hoses and cords along with two camp chairs and a two-burner stove behind the sofas? (I suppose our small CLAM has to stay home.)

We had hoped to go to an RV show and answer some of these questions ourselves, but somewhere between Kansas and Texas, we managed to get COVID and had to miss it.
ExpressVan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-27-2023, 05:43 PM   #2
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2022
Location: Florida
Posts: 166
Default

I can chime in as I am in the process of looking for a decent priced folding memory foam mattress for my 02 Chevy Versatile. I plan on removing the factory cushion set and using the mattress as a full time bed - since we never use that area for anything but the bedroom. In my opinion the sleeping arrangement is the critical component to enjoyable living
__________________
2002 Chevy Roadtrek 190V
https://www.roadtrek190.com
KurtFranz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-27-2023, 06:04 PM   #3
Bud
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: LA
Posts: 1,519
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by KurtFranz View Post
I can chime in as I am in the process of looking for a decent priced folding memory foam mattress for my 02 Chevy Versatile. I plan on removing the factory cushion set and using the mattress as a full time bed - since we never use that area for anything but the bedroom. In my opinion the sleeping arrangement is the critical component to enjoyable living
Why folding if full time bed?
Bud is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-27-2023, 06:14 PM   #4
Bronze Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2023
Location: Texas
Posts: 24
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by KurtFranz View Post
In my opinion the sleeping arrangement is the critical component to enjoyable living
Thank you for replying! I totally agree about the importance of the sleeping arrangement. It took a lot of trial and error to find what works best for us, and it's the one thing we don't want to compromise on. Many Class B's have been dropped from consideration based on that.
ExpressVan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2023, 02:43 AM   #5
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2022
Location: Florida
Posts: 166
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bud View Post
Why folding if full time bed?
i use my van often for picking up and hauling things when necessary, and i remove cushions and such when doing so. if i buy a new mattress i want one that folds so can remove and store it easily when i am not in rv mode so to speak.
__________________
2002 Chevy Roadtrek 190V
https://www.roadtrek190.com
KurtFranz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2023, 07:08 AM   #6
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Arizona, Tempe
Posts: 1,621
Default

The compressor fridges require an enhanced electrical system and robust charging system. That means a lot of solar or a generator. Probably 200 AH minimum of lithium battery.

The compressor fridges do handle high temperatures very well. You do need a lot of battery and a quick way to charge them. Lithiums charge very quickly.

The Roadtreks and Pleasureways have all the storage you need. There is no storage behind the sofas. There is some ahead of the back doors.

I can’t imagine putting a box spring mattress in a B van.
hbn7hj is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2023, 05:19 PM   #7
Bronze Member
 
Join Date: May 2021
Location: maine
Posts: 42
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ExpressVan View Post
I'm trying to wrap my brain around Class B travel after traveling in a simple van set up for years. I wonder about lots of "little" things, and would like to hear from experienced owners about them:


3. Where in the world do you put cups, phones, eyeglasses, etc. given the lack of bedside surfaces in most B's I've seen? (We have deep window sills with cupholders, etc.)

4. Is there enough space for a few basic tools, hoses and cords along with two camp chairs and a two-burner stove behind the sofas? (I suppose our small CLAM has to stay home.)

We had hoped to go to an RV show and answer some of these questions ourselves, but somewhere between Kansas and Texas, we managed to get COVID and had to miss it.
IF your van does not have cubbies- ours came with lots although there are always tradeoffs- we have v virtually no space that is tall to hang anything up..- then use command hooks to hang a shoe organizer or a light weight shelf We keep camp chairs hoses and the cord and leveling blocks in the "trunk"; we removed the odd table that was too high and jiggled and easily slide a folding tray table under the bed for use as needed. We keep small tools overhead above the driver space. One has to live in it for a while to figure out how to live in it What i still find funny after three yrs is that we lose things Look all over Cannot find that jacket or bag In a small van! Then it turns up Have fun
jeana is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2023, 05:35 PM   #8
Platinum Member
 
engnrsrule's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: VA
Posts: 313
Default

Several of the youtube influencers I follow have praised Brooklyn Bedding RV mattresses. For my class B I also prefer leaving bed set up. The factory cushions are actually pretty good, but we improved the comfort by adding a 3" memory foam topper and a tight fitting mattress pad. (This of course makes breaking it down more difficult). Also came up with a bed-making hack. I keep one of those "grabber" gadgets under the edge of the mattress and use it to position the covers when making up bed.

For fridge we stayed with a 3way, and upgraded to a newer one. Class B's have minimal ability to expand battery or inverter capacity beyond how they are originally configured. I am quite satisfied with the performance of my 3 way on propane (parked), and on 12v (driving), or 110vac when hooked up..

Previous owner added cup holders over each side of the bed. I recently added a pair of mesh holders that sit flush, but can hold a cellphone or TV remote. I also switched out the closest 110v plug to one that includes two USB charging ports.

We have pretty good storage for a class B under the bed(accessible from outside), camp chairs, table, propane grill, basic tools, hoses, extension cord. I also removed the two passenger seats and made more storage inside.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg FB_IMG_1685653059314.jpg (71.8 KB, 12 views)
File Type: jpg 0601231920_HDR.jpg (229.4 KB, 12 views)
engnrsrule is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2023, 07:50 PM   #9
Bronze Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: MA
Posts: 46
Default

If you are near any RV dealers, go see some models to get an idea of the space. Our experience is to be open to what's available. i.e. Take a look at the available space and decide if you can adapt or accept the compromises. All Class B owners have misc. things at bed time (I keep mine in the window slot) and they find a solution. Same for all storage, it's just always different than you expect!

If you put the rear sofa up, there's space behind it and in many models there is space under (if it's not take up for systems).

Check out available storage which is in online pictures and also be ready to take a leap of faith that you will figure it out!
joelm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2023, 11:55 PM   #10
Bronze Member
 
Join Date: May 2020
Location: California
Posts: 27
Default

Most of the new compressor fridges like Isotherm are very quiet and use only `17 watts when they are on. They are on less than half the time. They are also completely quiet.
We never plug into shorepower even during prolonged stays but rely on our 4000AH li-ion battery and our 400 watt solar on the roof.
ableami is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2023, 01:24 AM   #11
New Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2020
Location: Florida
Posts: 2
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ExpressVan View Post
I'm trying to wrap my brain around Class B travel after traveling in a simple van set up for years. I wonder about lots of "little" things, and would like to hear from experienced owners about them:

1. Has anyone put a conventional, box spring mattress on top of the existing bed? The Ontour2.2 would work for us in terms of bed length, but we are very set on the mattress we use in our current van.

2. Refrigerators: Do the larger compression fridges keep up in extreme temps? How is the noise level? What do you do for ice for drinks (we like lots)?

3. Where in the world do you put cups, phones, eyeglasses, etc. given the lack of bedside surfaces in most B's I've seen? (We have deep window sills with cupholders, etc.)

4. Is there enough space for a few basic tools, hoses and cords along with two camp chairs and a two-burner stove behind the sofas? (I suppose our small CLAM has to stay home.)

We had hoped to go to an RV show and answer some of these questions ourselves, but somewhere between Kansas and Texas, we managed to get COVID and had to miss it.
We bring our clam on ALL trips-the extra space is invaluable! Our 7.5 cu ft Dometic is awesome, quiet and loves 12 v, as well as shore power. The best thing ever is UHG underhood Genny-that sucker works so good to cool us off at the Cracker Barrel overnights, and uses so little diesel-6 hours overnight and less than 1/4 tank and doesn’t disturb your neighbors.
LVPHYL5031 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2023, 06:27 AM   #12
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Arizona, Tempe
Posts: 1,621
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ableami View Post
Most of the new compressor fridges like Isotherm are very quiet and use only `17 watts when they are on. They are on less than half the time. They are also completely quiet.
We never plug into shorepower even during prolonged stays but rely on our 4000AH li-ion battery and our 400 watt solar on the roof.
You must mean 400AH which is a large battery bank for a B.
hbn7hj is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2023, 02:21 PM   #13
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: America's Seaplane City, FL
Posts: 959
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by KurtFranz View Post
I can chime in as I am in the process of looking for a decent priced folding memory foam mattress for my 02 Chevy Versatile. I plan on removing the factory cushion set and using the mattress as a full time bed - since we never use that area for anything but the bedroom. In my opinion the sleeping arrangement is the critical component to enjoyable living
We liked this one in our 200V.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...e?ie=UTF8&th=1
__________________
Tick tock, baby(Ironbuttal)
2000 Roadtrek Chevy 200 Versatile(sold)
'98 Safari Trek 2480
Just for fun:'15 Kawasaki Versys650LT
Perfection is a fantasy, though improvement is possible(Wifey).
SteveJ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2023, 02:52 PM   #14
Gold Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2020
Location: Florida
Posts: 82
Default Opinion on Class B use

Quote:
Originally Posted by ExpressVan View Post
I'm trying to wrap my brain around Class B travel after traveling in a simple van set up for years. I wonder about lots of "little" things, and would like to hear from experienced owners about them:

1. Has anyone put a conventional, box spring mattress on top of the existing bed? The Ontour2.2 would work for us in terms of bed length, but we are very set on the mattress we use in our current van.

2. Refrigerators: Do the larger compression fridges keep up in extreme temps? How is the noise level? What do you do for ice for drinks (we like lots)?

3. Where in the world do you put cups, phones, eyeglasses, etc. given the lack of bedside surfaces in most B's I've seen? (We have deep window sills with cupholders, etc.)

4. Is there enough space for a few basic tools, hoses and cords along with two camp chairs and a two-burner stove behind the sofas? (I suppose our small CLAM has to stay home.)

We had hoped to go to an RV show and answer some of these questions ourselves, but somewhere between Kansas and Texas, we managed to get COVID and had to miss it.
Hello, and I have made many adjustments to my Travato for the things you mentioned. So here goes. 1. I put foam on the beds over the supports but have seen straps used like on an Ikea bed which may work. 2. We have a 12v ref and it works great but a bit small. It means I don't have to level as much saving the use of blocks, however we put an electric cooler behind the passenger seat which holds all the drinks plug into your inverter as you drive. 3. We added a car item holder behind or on the back of the passenger seat to keep glasses etc. Works great. Also a mess shoe holder by the beds for shoes. I put a pair of water sandals in the door lower pocket so when we shower I can walk around. 4. I have a small tool box, but found that if you add a sports rack with ladder on the back you can carrier your Clam tent and small tool box attached to the ladder. I also added a cargo carrier rack that folds up and have two plastic boxes I strap down to give a lot of storage for things (great for pet stuff) and we take it when we need.

If you read the forum and Class B RV blog you can get great ideas on space savings and maintenance. I just learned a lot about tires and shocks. Best Wishes
Beachlife is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-29-2023, 10:22 PM   #15
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 473
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by hbn7hj View Post
The compressor fridges require an enhanced electrical system and robust charging system. That means a lot of solar or a generator. Probably 200 AH minimum of lithium battery..
I don't agree with this although it depends on the size of the refrigerator and the outside temperature. Our compressor refrigerator is very efficient and very quiet. We have no problem running this on our two 100 Ahr AGM batteries. We have no solar panels or generator but we do have a 2nd alternator to recharge our batteries. We probably have to drive 15 min per day or so to recover the battery capacity that our refrigerator uses each day even in hot weather. We can make ice but you won't be able to make mixed drinks on ice all night as if you were in a bar.

I would also never consider going back to a 3 way refrigerator after have a modern compressor refrigerator. I am surprised that they even make them anymore.
jrobe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-01-2023, 01:34 AM   #16
Bronze Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2023
Location: Texas
Posts: 24
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by hbn7hj View Post
I canít imagine putting a box spring mattress in a B van.
I am curious to know why. Is it because you lose the option to covert to living space? Or because it could make it difficult to access components in the benches? Another reason?

We currently have a full in a north/south orientation on a regular bed frame in our van and like it very much. An ideal scenario for us would be to transfer it to a Class B.
ExpressVan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-01-2023, 01:37 AM   #17
Bronze Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2023
Location: Texas
Posts: 24
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jeana View Post
One has to live in it for a while to figure out how to live in it What i still find funny after three yrs is that we lose things Look all over Cannot find that jacket or bag In a small van! Then it turns up Have fun
LOL! Both of those things are so true! It's taken us a long time to get everything just right. So long, in fact, that the van is beginning to age out.
ExpressVan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-01-2023, 01:43 AM   #18
Bronze Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2023
Location: Texas
Posts: 24
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by engnrsrule View Post
Also came up with a bed-making hack. I keep one of those "grabber" gadgets under the edge of the mattress and use it to position the covers when making up bed.

We have pretty good storage for a class B under the bed(accessible from outside), camp chairs, table, propane grill, basic tools, hoses, extension cord. I also removed the two passenger seats and made more storage inside.
Next time I make the bed, I will definitely grab the grabber! Great idea!

Would you mind telling what model B you have? I really like what I see in the pics, and underbed storage accessible from outside is a big plus.
ExpressVan is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


» Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT. The time now is 04:08 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2023, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.