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Old 05-08-2018, 02:57 AM   #11
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Advanced RV is currently oferring three battery options.

- The Elite Power Solutions 12v LiFePo4 batteries with the Delco alternator.
- The Valence 12v LiFeMgPo4 batteries with the Delco alternator.
- The 48v Volta system.

For many reasons the Valence system looks the most intriging to me. They are kicking around other options as well. Their new air conditioner is truly quiet as advertised.

Their new building is 2-1/2 times larger just down the street from their old. Mike Neundorfer stated they still don’t foresee more than 48 Class B’s per year in the way they build individually for each customer. That’s one reason they are diversifying with rentals, and offering to install VB Air, levelers, and air conditioners on other brands. The Metrivan was another venture.

The shorty Sprinter (144 WB) may take off. So far they are totally custom with customer input. That’s what I met with them today and will do some mocking up in a raw van tomorrow. It will be an ongoing process. They had suggestions beyond what I was proposing.
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Old 05-08-2018, 04:12 AM   #12
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Bret, my opinion to choose Roadtrek was that they've been in the business of exclusively making Class B's continuously since 1974.... that's all they do.... other companies make Class A's, Class B's and C's..... and in 43 years... Roadtrek has just recently passed their 30,000 conversion van... that's NOT a lot of units...... Roadtrek is less than 1,000 conversions per year..Good luck...
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Bret, my opinion to choose Roadtrek was that they've been in the business of exclusively making Class B's continuously since 1974.... that's all they do.... other companies make Class A's, Class B's and C's..... and in 43 years... Roadtrek has just recently passed their 30,000 conversion van... that's NOT a lot of units...... Roadtrek is less than 1,000 conversions per year..Good luck...

But.... Roadtrek has changed ownership twice in recent years.

They have also changed their design philosophy; they are not the "quality workmanship RV" anymore. The 2008 market crash has changed everything, not just to RT, but to the whole RV industry. There are few survivors.

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OK, they were originally Home and Park in 1974...then officially named Roadtrek in 1980.. later merged with the Erwin Hymer Group in 2016......

What exactly are you saying... that the quality went downhill in 2016?? Or, because of the recession in 2008... quality went down.? Explain... what are your facts?

As for me, I think my 2012 RS Adventurous is pretty nice..as a production RV...
Are there other companies that build fancier RV'S...of course.. probably Leisure Travel?

What's your model?? And, why don't you tell us who you think are the survivors?
By the way... Roadtrek offers a six years unlimited mileage warranty on new units... now why do you think a company that builds substandard products would do that???

I'm not advocating purchasing a new model, but, 6 years is pretty generous...



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You missed an owner. They were also purchased by an investment/turnaround group years before Hymer. The booted the remnants of the original family owners a while later and gave all the marbles to Jim Hammill. Lots of things have gone down hill since, from quality to customer service, to generally poor treatment of anyone who disagrees with Hammill.
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That's great! They are apparently the exception to the rule. This is from all the feedback I'm getting from other RV owners.

Your experience should be the norm.

I'll be willing to bet that Advance will really grow in the coming years as more and more RV owners demand higher quality.
I am not sure many RV's believe they can afford a new Roadtrek let alone one built by Advanced RV.

FWIW we had the means to buy a Class B made by Advanced and chatted with them a few times but our fiscal sense kicked in and we finally decided to purchase a RT, Short WB Agile instead. We came in right around 20% off MSRP for a '17 which translated to just over $120K ($150.7K MSRP) and we paid cash.

For Advanced, we were talking closer to ~$260K for a better coach build for sure...but I am not sure it is/was $140K better for our purposes.....just MHO.

So you may be right that they may be in high demand in coming years, but should we hit a bump in the economy you might see folks pulling back on that type/high of investment even if one can afford to pay the price. That is what our decision came down to........
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Bob..I think you made a good decision. There's a point of diminishing returns with anything.
These are TOYS, not investments....we bought ours a year ago in May 2017 for $79k...I had to put some money into it, some necessary, tires, batteries, few minor repairs... and some extras..new sound system, enhanced backup camera, solar panel etc.

In one year we put 14,000 miles on the rig, we're enjoying it.

As for quality, I don't agree with BBQ.... I think it's fine.my opinion.

I have seen some videos showing some quality control issues... I'm sure you can find that anywhere..I saw someone blast a Class B Airstream once....so what.

Good luck with your rig. It's all about enjoying the thing.

Originally, we were financing it .. but , once I started thinking about the interest and paying twice for the rig I decided to pay it off.

Question, a lot of people who have these conversions upgrade the suspension...the van was built as a cargo van and converted...which means that the constant weight of the kitchen, plumbing, cabinets and generator all works to make the original shocks and suspension a little weak... On my USA trip, we encountered a lot of situations with high winds, uneven roads and getting sucked into the downdraft of big rigs when they passed us..

I've been told that a lot of people who purchased new rigs even upgraded the original shocks.. next week I'm going to get an upgraded suspension, new shocks, sway bar and tracking bar. My very trustworthy RV shop who works on my rig told me I need new shocks on my 2012 with 40,000 miles.. because of the excellent relationship I have with them... I believe them....I'm getting a lot of pitching and side to side motion whenever I enter driveways or uneven pavement... cabinets rattle like an earthquake...
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Booster, by the way, being a new owner. I had a couple of questions about the Roadtrek after I purchased it, I called them and they answered all of my questions, no problem and at one point called me to follow up....I don't consider that to be "bad customer service" ...if you know what I mean......of course, people are always the problem, maybe the person you contacted was not as professional as the one I spoke to...???
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Bob..I think you made a good decision. There's a point of diminishing returns with anything.
These are TOYS, not investments....we bought ours a year ago in May 2017 for $79k...I had to put some money into it, some necessary, tires, batteries, few minor repairs... and some extras..new sound system, enhanced backup camera, solar panel etc.

In one year we put 14,000 miles on the rig, we're enjoying it.

As for quality, I don't agree with BBQ.... I think it's fine.my opinion.

I have seen some videos showing some quality control issues... I'm sure you can find that anywhere..I saw someone blast a Class B Airstream once....so what.

Good luck with your rig. It's all about enjoying the thing.

Originally, we were financing it .. but , once I started thinking about the interest and paying twice for the rig I decided to pay it off.

Question, a lot of people who have these conversions upgrade the suspension...the van was built as a cargo van and converted...which means that the constant weight of the kitchen, plumbing, cabinets and generator all works to make the original shocks and suspension a little weak... On my USA trip, we encountered a lot of situations with high winds, uneven roads and getting sucked into the downdraft of big rigs when they passed us..

I've been told that a lot of people who purchased new rigs even upgraded the original shocks.. next week I'm going to get an upgraded suspension, new shocks, sway bar and tracking bar. My very trustworthy RV shop who works on my rig told me I need new shocks on my 2012 with 40,000 miles.. because of the excellent relationship I have with them... I believe them....I'm getting a lot of pitching and side to side motion whenever I enter driveways or uneven pavement... cabinets rattle like an earthquake...
Yup, agree on the your quality opinion too.........not seeing issues. People swear by PleasureWay. We checked out their SS version as well and we didn't see anything we liked better other than the kitchen on the opposite side.....we actually thought the quality was worse than our Agile. It felt like the kitchen cabinetry was from the 70's........at least Roadtrek is from the 80's. Absolutely hated the flooring in the PW and what are they thinking with the piece of carpet in the rear? No offence to all the happy PW owners.......obviously this is only my opinion on my preferences.

Please post the suspension info and if you are comfy sharing ballpark prices. I do not have anything to go on but we do all drive trucks. Would like to see what you notice after the upgrade.
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Booster, by the way, being a new owner. I had a couple of questions about the Roadtrek after I purchased it, I called them and they answered all of my questions, no problem and at one point called me to follow up....I don't consider that to be "bad customer service" ...if you know what I mean......of course, people are always the problem, maybe the person you contacted was not as professional as the one I spoke to...???
I didn't say that we had lots of problems, but we have a 2007 and did have some. Top one for bad service for us was that even though the unit was new off the lot, where it had been for a while, neither Roadtrek, the dealer, or Exide would warrant bad batteries that we found out about within weeks of taking it home, when they would not hold charge.

If you didn't have an issue that needed taking care of, I would expect you would get better treatment than folks that may be trying to get warranty on expensive stuff like 8 AGM batteries. There have been lots of very irritated customers since the release of the etrek timeframe.
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