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Old 07-11-2018, 04:04 PM   #1
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OK, I'm not trying to "start anything" here - really But does anyone have any experiences pro or con concerning Class B vans w/o the typical enclosed wet bath setup ? The enclosed room itself seems to take up a lot of space, plus there's the added complexity of the extra plumbing, black tank & associated dumping thereof, etc... After all, the old VW Westfalias, the grandfather of all Class Bs, didn't incl. this feature.

Practically, how much of an issue was it to just find a shower at a campground, truck stop, etc... ? What, if anything, did you do about a toilet ? (portable one hidden away somewhere ? if so, what kind ?)

Again, not trying to start a thread bashing those #vanlife kids on Youtube with their very minimalist, homemade setups or anything - that's not what I'm after. Just pondering a professional build, but simplifying some of the systems in it to save complexity, cost, and weight.
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Old 07-11-2018, 04:34 PM   #2
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We have the aisle shower of the earlier generations of Roadtreks in our 07. It is still offered in the Chevies, I think. We like it as it takes nearly no space and we use campground showers anyway.
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Old 07-11-2018, 06:43 PM   #3
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I don't own a B yet so I can't speak from experience, but if you can live without a bathroom would a van with a mattress and a refrigerator be enough for you?

If you search you will find a bunch of threads on this topic.
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Well it depends on what a person needs/wants. If I'm in a campground with decent showers, I'll use them. If it has flush toilets, I use them. So I suppose that you'd need very little if you scouted out campgrounds for those items. Our PW has a small bathroom that I've never showered in, although the floor is a shower pan with drain. I do wash up every morning...complete body/hair..and shave. Works. A persons needs: Not having to get dressed and go out to the bathroom in the middle of the night is a real plus. I used to tent camp where none of that was an option. I even "car" camped with an suv that had a dedicated air mattress.
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Old 07-11-2018, 07:16 PM   #5
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A few years ago I had a conversion done with a kitchenette sink plumbed to jerry cans under the sink. Then I had a closet with a cassette toilet. Since we used the van to haul kids for the day care, camp, and travel it was fine, but...

We've decided to do away with the dual purpose van. I'm planning our next van and now we know what we really want. This time we'll get the Rixens heat/hot water and a shower. I really miss hot water while camping or traveling. Thetford has a compact cass. toilet that only uses 15 inches of the bathroom space. Then with 15-18 additional inches to stand I would think you could make a reasonable 24"w x 30"-33" long wet bath.

You still have a grey tank but no black tank. One deciding factor was the 3 inch black waste valve hanging down as opposed to the 1 inch grey valve.
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My intended purpose of buying a class B was for extended trips with a lot of boondocking and that is how it's evolved.

If RV parks and campgrounds with showers are your game why bother with the wet bath? But... what happens if you change your focus and desire more rustic getaways?

On TDY near Montrose Co on BLM land for likely more than a week.
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I designed our 144WB with the external transom shower and the cassette toilet used as seat or ottoman for front seats. Post our 2 Westfalias we had showers in all RVs but used them rarely, prefer full showers with elbow room and plenty of water. Now we have all utilities except an AC and an inside shower.
We have practically instant, about a couple of seconds, hot water at the sink or the transom shower.
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Old 07-11-2018, 08:11 PM   #8
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GeorgeRa, Yeah, that's kinda what I had in mind. Instant hot water heater, cassette toilet of some sort tucked away, outdoor shower valves/hose avail out the back. Just no dedicated "wet bath" room...
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I just purchased a Travato G with bath. Wouldn’t consider a van or trailer without one. Had a couple travel trailers before with baths. After a long trail run or Mtn bike ride, I love having a shower. I think it’s more fun to be self contained and be able to boondock with full amenities. On the other hand I have friends with vans without baths. They don’t seems to mind. Of course they always want to take a shower in mine
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Old 07-12-2018, 05:17 AM   #10
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OK, I'm not trying to "start anything" here - really But does anyone have any experiences pro or con concerning Class B vans w/o the typical enclosed wet bath setup ? The enclosed room itself seems to take up a lot of space, plus there's the added complexity of the extra plumbing, black tank & associated dumping thereof, etc... After all, the old VW Westfalias, the grandfather of all Class Bs, didn't incl. this feature.

Practically, how much of an issue was it to just find a shower at a campground, truck stop, etc... ? What, if anything, did you do about a toilet ? (portable one hidden away somewhere ? if so, what kind ?)

Again, not trying to start a thread bashing those #vanlife kids on Youtube with their very minimalist, homemade setups or anything - that's not what I'm after. Just pondering a professional build, but simplifying some of the systems in it to save complexity, cost, and weight.
I brought up a similar question about how many people used the wet bath to shower?

According to Roadtrek...98 percent of their clients want a wet bath... although only two percent of the people say they actually use the shower...we definitely use the bathroom for "number one"....of course in an "emergency"... I'd probably use it for number 2.... BUT...we always stay places or find public restrooms.....

We've been thinking..we should actually use the shower... just seems like a pain to dry the walls..... maybe the fan would clean out the moisture??

Here's the thing.... when it comes time to SELL...you want the bathroom there...it's the first thing people will look for....

We have separate gray, black and fresh water tanks... also preferred......

Is it convenient at 3 AM....you bet it is.... also when it's freezing cold outside.....I know we're thankful for it....plus...if you have to go and you're in the middle of nowhere... you're going to love having this on board.....

All of these situations have come up in the 16 months since I purchased my van....

Eventually we'll use the shower...you just have to realize... its a "Navy Shower"....wet down, soap up and rinse....it's NOT like the shower at home.....

Good luck...
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