RV News RVBusiness 2021 Top 10 RVs of the Year, plus 56 additional debuts and must-see units → ×
 
 


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 10-17-2015, 08:35 PM   #201
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 2,051
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by wincrasher View Post
Ha! That's the van I reported on at Hershey. Good luck with whoever buys that one.
what was wrong with it. refresh my memory?
__________________

gerrym51 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2015, 07:53 PM   #202
Platinum Member
 
BobB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 691
Default

FYI -- Roadtrek website now updated with Zion SRT. Base MSRP = $82,706USD vs $87,906USD for Zion.
__________________

__________________
BobB
'99 VW EVC
BobB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2015, 07:59 PM   #203
Platinum Member
 
BobB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 691
Default

But "Build Your Own " section not working yet; Says Interior Cabinetry "required" but there is nothing to choose yet, so you cannot get further on the "Build Your Own" process. Also, interestingly, upgrade to silver metallic costs $585, but your total is only $82

Why does RT keep releasing things before they are tested and ready???
__________________
BobB
'99 VW EVC
BobB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2015, 09:56 PM   #204
Bronze Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: WA
Posts: 38
Default

I see American RV, Michigan has a new one on their website. 500+ miles so they drive it down and want to charge you $2000 delivery. Actually a nice looking unit and it has everything I would want on it. Tried to search Am. RV here and not finding anything.
2016 Roadtrek Zion SRT | American RV
islandrog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2015, 10:39 PM   #205
Platinum Member
 
BobB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 691
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by islandrog View Post
....500+ miles so they drive it down and want to charge you $2000 delivery. [/url]
Seems like all dealers add a delivery charge (may include prep, too) no matter where they are. IIRC someone said Lichtsinn adds the standard delivery charge as other dealers, even though they are only a couple of miles from the Winnebago factory
__________________
BobB
'99 VW EVC
BobB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2015, 11:02 PM   #206
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: WA
Posts: 194
Default

I believe it's to level the playing field for dealers, otherwise manufacturers might find themselves stuck with just a few mega dealers close to the factory.
B Eventually is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2015, 11:12 PM   #207
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Kansas City, Ks. Suburb
Posts: 885
Send a message via Yahoo to bobojay
Default

The dealers don't add the shipping charges. The RV manufacturer does no matter where it's delivered to
__________________
Bob & Sharon
2019 Winnebago Travato K (2018 Chassis)

Past RV's: 2013 WGO ERA 70A, Chevy PW Lexor
Itasca Navion, 29' Jayco 5th Wheel
bobojay is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2015, 11:20 PM   #208
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: WA
Posts: 194
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BobB View Post
FYI -- Roadtrek website now updated with Zion SRT. Base MSRP = $82,706USD vs $87,906USD for Zion.
The SRT might work well for some families. The lower price and shorter length is appealing. It even looks like there's three seat belts in that bench. But Roadtrek lists the Occupant & Cargo Carrying Capacity at 1,250 lbs!

After subtracting a full tank of water and some rough passenger weights (2 adults, 1 dog, and 3 kids), there's less than 200 lbs left for propane & everything else!

1250 - 309 - 210 - 150 - 140 - 100 - 100 - 50 => 191

B Eventually is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2015, 11:39 PM   #209
Platinum Member
 
BobB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 691
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bobojay View Post
The dealers don't add the shipping charges. The RV manufacturer does no matter where it's delivered to
Thank you for the clarification. I knew I missed a detail in there.
__________________
BobB
'99 VW EVC
BobB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-28-2015, 12:09 AM   #210
Bronze Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: WA
Posts: 38
Default

RT pitches the SRT for 1-2 folks, forget the kids....
islandrog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-28-2015, 12:13 AM   #211
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 50
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Transit View Post
But Roadtrek lists the Occupant & Cargo Carrying Capacity at 1,250 lbs!

They also list the regular Zion as 1250 but it is actually 1595


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
rectalogic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-28-2015, 12:20 AM   #212
Bronze Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: WA
Posts: 38
Default

I expect RT needs to do a bit more cleanup on their webpage. I would not think the specs for Gross Vehicle Weight Rating 9,350 lbs,
Occupant & Cargo Carrying Capacity 1,250 lbs, and
Gross Combined Weight Rating 11,500 lbs to be the same for the Zion & the SRT.
islandrog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-28-2015, 12:24 AM   #213
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 1,312
Default

There are a ton of errors all over the webpages. They don't really care as long as general information is there for people. They expect you to get your information from the sales people... many of whom are more uninformed than the webpage. The most accurate information is on the order sheet if you can get a copy from a dealer. And these days it is darn near impossible to get a human on the phone at the factory...

so...
__________________
Mumkin
2019 Roadtrek Simplicity SRT (almost a Zion)
2015 Roadtrek 170
2011 LTV Libero
2004 GWV Classic Supreme
mumkin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-28-2015, 12:59 AM   #214
Platinum Member
 
Davydd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 5,123
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mumkin View Post
There are a ton of errors all over the webpages. They don't really care as long as general information is there for people. They expect you to get your information from the sales people... many of whom are more uninformed than the webpage. The most accurate information is on the order sheet if you can get a copy from a dealer. And these days it is darn near impossible to get a human on the phone at the factory...

so...
...and the sales people get their information from the published spec sheets on the web?

I would think if sales people actually have accurate information that it could be coordinated accurately with a web page.
__________________
Davydd
2015 Advanced RV Ocean One Mercedes Benz Sprinter
Previous Class Bs:
2011 Great West Van Legend Sprinter
2005 Pleasure-way Plateau TS Sprinter
Davydd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-28-2015, 01:46 AM   #215
Gold Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: BC
Posts: 87
Default

"Revolutionary floor plan?" Haha, they copied the Pleasure Way Ascent plan. They are so far behind they think they are first!
__________________
2016 (Mercedes) PW Ascent > 2018 (RAM) WGO Travato K
sheral is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-28-2015, 02:54 AM   #216
Platinum Member
 
BobB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 691
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by islandrog View Post
RT pitches the SRT for 1-2 folks, forget the kids....
Yes, but "regular" Zion Occupant & Cargo Carrying Capacity is also 1,250 lbs!

Go figure.
__________________
BobB
'99 VW EVC
BobB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-28-2015, 04:22 AM   #217
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 1,312
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Davydd View Post
...and the sales people get their information from the published spec sheets on the web?

I would think if sales people actually have accurate information that it could be coordinated accurately with a web page.
No, I doubt that the salesman ever look at the web. There are no "published spec sheets" on the web... only their commercial website and it has been inaccurate the whole last year... and likely years before.

The salespeople have official order sheets from Roadtrek, which are not on the web. My salesman emailed them to me when I started the process to help focus my questions.
__________________
Mumkin
2019 Roadtrek Simplicity SRT (almost a Zion)
2015 Roadtrek 170
2011 LTV Libero
2004 GWV Classic Supreme
mumkin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-28-2015, 03:22 PM   #218
Platinum Member
 
BobB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 691
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by rectalogic View Post
They also list the regular Zion as 1250 but it is actually 1595
I would love to know exactly how they calculate that number. Seems the only way is to outfit the van, fill up the tanks (fuel, water, propane, etc.) and weigh it. Subtract that number from the GCVW of 11,500# and that is how much additional cargo, people and tow can weigh. I wonder if RT actually does that? Has anyone here ever done that with their own RV?

I could not find similar numbers on PW or Winn sites. They only list GCWR and GVWR. GVWR includes the vehicle's chassis, body, engine, engine fluids, fuel, accessories, driver, passengers and cargo but excludes that of any trailers, so difference between GCWR and GVWR does not help you figure how much cargo and passengers can weigh. Did find the "curb weight" (weight of a vehicle without any passengers or cargo, but including all necessary fuel, fluids and standard equipment.) of Promaster 3500 159WB EXT is 5017#.

So difference between curb weight and GCWR is 6,483#. Using the 1595#, would outfitting + fuel + other full tanks take up almost 5,000#?
__________________
BobB
'99 VW EVC
BobB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-29-2015, 07:22 PM   #219
Bronze Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: WA
Posts: 38
Default

Roadtrek's "Build your own" SRT appears to be fixed now.
islandrog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-29-2015, 09:05 PM   #220
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 2,051
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by islandrog View Post
Roadtrek's "Build your own" SRT appears to be fixed now.
the zion SRT is on the 2500 chassis not the 3500 like the regular zion
__________________

gerrym51 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


» Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3

All times are GMT. The time now is 04:57 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
×