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Old 11-29-2020, 12:10 PM   #1
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Default Behold the Laveo Dry Flush

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Old 11-29-2020, 06:18 PM   #2
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So, how often do you need to change the cartridge and how much do the cartridges cost?
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Old 11-29-2020, 07:28 PM   #3
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So, how often do you need to change the cartridge and how much do the cartridges cost?
12 to 15 "flushes", $18.33 / cartridge. I went ahead and got 12 extra cartridges + the two that come with is = 14. I estimate I'll probably use 3 cartridges a year at most (only use for #2!) so I'm all set for quite a while.
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12 to 15 "flushes", $18.33 / cartridge. I'll probably use 3 cartridges a year at most (only use for #2!) so I'm all set for quite a while.
That is the key to having a Laveo: don't use it!

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12 to 15 "flushes", $18.33 / cartridge. I went ahead and got 12 extra cartridges + the two that come with is = 14. I estimate I'll probably use 3 cartridges a year at most (only use for #2!) so I'm all set for quite a while.
It is a clever system and for part time travel it makes sense. Traveling full time it could get expensive though, especially with two people traveling full time.
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It is a clever system and for part time travel it makes sense. Traveling full time it could get expensive though, especially with two people traveling full time.
Scott gosmalllivelarge calculates that he has flushed his toilet 6,000 times in 24 months of travel.

That is $4,200 worth of cartridges.
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It is a clever system and for part time travel it makes sense. Traveling full time it could get expensive though, especially with two people traveling full time.
This is a very good point. If I had a vehicle that, say, was intended for use as a tailgating vehicle or some such, I would seriously consider this kind of setup. It could just sit there until needed, with no concern for tank dumping or winterizing. There are probably many examples of this usage pattern. It is just not what most of the folks around here do.
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I can see that it won’t be used regularly—no night-time use and have to go outside and around to it, or at least that's the way it looks in the photo. But when you need it, it's there.
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I can see that it won’t be used regularly—no night-time use and have to go outside and around to it, or at least that's the way it looks in the photo. But when you need it, it's there.
Exactly, and in responding to this post and the others above regarding cost, I don't think the Laveo is for everyone. For the way I will use it, its a great value and extremely convenient. For full-time RV-ing it would be to costly for most.
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That is the key to having a Laveo: don't use it!

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The other key to the Laveo is to be a person with male anatomy such that urine diversion is a no-brainer. Which then allows the Laveo to be used once a day on average.
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I have to wonder, though, how much better this is than my system. Home-made toilet cost essentially zero. BOS odorproof bags cost $15 for a box of 90, so $0.17 per use.
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I have to wonder, though, how much better this is than my system. Home-made toilet cost essentially zero. BOS odorproof bags cost $15 for a box of 90, so $0.17 per use.
Yes. Or a Separett diverting desiccating toilet. $0.00 per use.
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I have to wonder, though, how much better this is than my system. Home-made toilet cost essentially zero. BOS odorproof bags cost $15 for a box of 90, so $0.17 per use.
"Better", of course, is a subjective term. It's typically a matter of what one wants and what he can afford or is willing to pay. "Value" depends upon the desired usage and benefits for the cost, in one's opinion. One thing is for certain ... in my family we did not wish to have an open bucket of human waste in the van . The Laveo also goes a lot farther than a cassette toilet (the other option) w/out emptying, and is a much cleaner process to empty, which is a huge plus.
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Yes. Or a Separett diverting desiccating toilet. $0.00 per use.
The Separett Villa, which I think (?) is what people are using in RVs, retails for around $1,084. Per-use costs must factor in both fixed and recurring expenses.
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The Separett Villa, which I think (?) is what people are using in RVs, retails for around $1,084. Per-use costs must factor in both fixed and recurring expenses.
One is going to pay $700-1200 for any system. So that figures for everybody. We could discuss amortization of each system. Ugh.

It was my understanding that the discussion was about operating cost. Cost per flush once you actually have a toilet.

Cost of repairs to a Laveo could very well be higher than for any other toilet except incinerating ones.

Separett toilet? An inexpensive fan....$12. Maybe a spring. $1-2.
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I'm not really concerned about the cost, personally. To me it's about the best fit for the use intended (for me).
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One is going to pay $700-1200 for any system. So that figures for everybody. We could discuss amortization of each system. Ugh.

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Well, not any system. MsNomer's system was maybe $25. A conventional gravity drop system that includes a small black tank, Thetford RV toilet, and associated plumbing and valving can be had for about $375 in materials, if one wished to DIY it.
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Or, the fancy porta potty which is essentially the same as a cassette toilet for $150 or less...

https://www.thetford.com/product/porta-potti-565e/

https://www.amazon.com/Camco-Toilet-...6915812&sr=8-3
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Or, the fancy porta potty which is essentially the same as a cassette toilet for $150 or less...

https://www.thetford.com/product/porta-potti-565e/

https://www.amazon.com/Camco-Toilet-...6915812&sr=8-3
As long as we are scraping bottom, you can get this free (the bucket, not lug wrench).

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As long as we are scraping bottom, you can get this free (the bucket, not lug wrench).

Jeesh. Wizards.
Jeesh, that was a rather silly response or are you joking?

Campers have been using porta potties in camper vans forever and these models have a 5 gal tank which is equivalent to a cassette toilet. Functions essentially the same as a cassette with no installation hassle.
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